Investigation launched into parent, teacher altercation at Ennerdale school

[Phylax]

"Why won't the media stop talking about white people when things happen!?!"
/Spends the last few pages himself talking about white people instead of the actual people involved in the incident

This thread would've been 20 pages long already if it was a white teacher saying this to black pupils...

 

[Pudding McTwinkle]

Have the sleuths worked out why this granny was in the class during school hours? Rando's are not allowed to be on school property during school hours.

 

[wbot]

Have the sleuths worked out why this granny was in the class during school hours? Rando's are not allowed to be on school property during school hours.

Maybe she found out the teacher is a racist pos.

 

[JustAsk]

Lol at...

"If you don't like coloureds, why don't you teach where you came from?"

 

[G'Wobblez]

 

[PrimeSteak]

"Why won't the media stop talking about white people when things happen!?!"
/Spends the last few pages himself talking about white people instead of the actual people involved in the incident

While I won't make this too much about whites specifically, there is a point that there are blatant double standards regarding racism in SA.

For example, let's look back at the pissing, the SAHRC condemned and started investigating, there were shittons of opinion pieces that boil down to collectively blaming white people, and the big 3 political parties and ASA all released statements, for the next two weeks that was all we heard about, even the gov made a statement calling on "white parents".

Now, a teacher unironically says "I don't like Coloureds" (proven in the vid) to an old Coloured woman in a class full of Coloured children. No outrage, silence.

So, by now you may be asking, "@PrimeSteak, what's your point here?".
My point is, whenever there's a case of suspected (and confirmed sometimes) minority on black racism that hits the public domain, it's as if the world will implode in 3 minutes, but when there's a case of suspected (and later confirmed like in this case) black on minority racism that hits the public domain, there's silence, perhaps a headline or two. No opinion pieces condemning the teacher and Black people, no response from SAHRC, no response from the political parties, nor any response from the gov. The responses aren't equal.

Now I'll pose a question, let's swap the two, with the students and the old woman being Black and the teacher being Coloured, and the teacher then said "I don't like Blacks".
Do you think it would've been met with the silence this case has been met with?

 

[Anti-Chris]

Critical race theory tells you why there is no such thing as racism against white people. Remember, racism is power plus prejudice.

White people have institutional power and unearned privilege, and are are inherently racist, therefor black people cannot be racist.

That is why you will see so much overt racism on social media platforms directed at white people and get mass support, and at the same time know the names of two whites who said bad things, and an entire country hate them.

Blacks are also at the top of the intersectional hierarchy. Therefore a black person cannot be racist towards a coloured person.

Critical Race theory is BS on higher grade... The definition of Racism is the belief that one race possesses certain qualities that either makes them superior or inferior to another... (this teacher's statement that she does not like colored people because they have no manners is therefor racism and nothing else).

 

[Gyre]

This thread would've been 20 pages long already if it was a white teacher saying this to black pupils...

Only because it would have been people making excuses for the white person or more what about scenarios

 

[Gyre]

Critical race theory tells you why there is no such thing as racism against white people. Remember, racism is power plus prejudice.

White people have institutional power and unearned privilege, and are are inherently racist, therefor black people cannot be racist.

That is why you will see so much overt racism on social media platforms directed at white people and get mass support, and at the same time know the names of two whites who said bad things, and an entire country hate them.

Blacks are also at the top of the intersectional hierarchy. Therefore a black person cannot be racist towards a coloured person.

Critical race theory is irrelevant to south africa, take it to the relevant thread.

 

[JustAsk]

This thread would've been 20 pages long already if it was a white teacher saying this to black pupils...

Yeah...with people defending the white teacher's free speech or the 1001 reasons why it wasn't racism.

And when it was a black/brown teacher to a white child, that same people would've scream racism, hate speech, plus Afriforum/Solidarity would've already had a lawyer ready.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Are coloured people allowed to use the k-word

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Yeah...with people defending the white teacher's free speech or the 1001 reasons why it wasn't racism.

And when it was a black/brown teacher to a white child, that same people would've scream racism, hate speech, plus Afriforum/Solidarity would've already had a lawyer ready.

Afriforum and DA will get involved
The coloured communities are important to them

 

[Emjay]

Critical Race theory is BS on higher grade...

Yup, that explains it perfectly.

 

[Emjay]

Critical race theory is irrelevant to south africa, take it to the relevant thread.

It is not. You have no idea what you are talking about. The same language and concepts are used in South African schools and universities. We have the ultimate outcome of it vis-a-vie BEE and legal discrimination.

Or how about you explain your opinion on why black on white racism is acceptable, or why black on coloured racism does not get a proportional outcry? The title of this article is not even a proper reflection of what happened.

 

[Gyre]

While I won't make this too much about whites specifically, there is a point that there are blatant double standards regarding racism in SA.

For example, let's look back at the pissing, the SAHRC condemned and started investigating, there were shittons of opinion pieces that boil down to collectively blaming white people, and the big 3 political parties and ASA all released statements, for the next two weeks that was all we heard about, even the gov made a statement calling on "white parents".

Now, a teacher unironically says "I don't like Coloureds" (proven in the vid) to an old Coloured woman in a class full of Coloured children. No outrage, silence.

So, by now you may be asking, "@PrimeSteak, what's your point here?".
My point is, whenever there's a case of suspected (and confirmed sometimes) minority on black racism that hits the public domain, it's as if the world will implode in 3 minutes, but when there's a case of suspected (and later confirmed like in this case) black on minority racism that hits the public domain, there's silence, perhaps a headline or two. No opinion pieces condemning the teacher and Black people, no response from SAHRC, no response from the political parties, nor any response from the gov. The responses aren't equal.

Now I'll pose a question, let's swap the two, with the students and the old woman being Black and the teacher being Coloured, and the teacher then said "I don't like Blacks".
Do you think it would've been met with the silence this case has been met with?

It blew up on social media which required the political parties to get involved so they looked like they actually gave a ****. It's no different to the other PR stunts of the knob in the hat pouring alcohol down a drain and the ANC holding a mock funeral with empty caskets. What the politicians do out there shouldn't affect what we do here, now - another difference is that i have a forumite in front of me, I don't have a reporter or politician with me.

The point with media is that they share anything sells - new virus? Post it. new racist incident? Post it. Zuma? Post it.

The reason rape threads/murder threads are 2 pages long is because we all condemn it and nothing needs to be said - add racism to the murder and it'll go on about 200 pages on why it's racial, why a certain race is terrible, what the good ol days were like, what he IQ of a certain race is, what is happening in Orania/Nigeria, etc.

The point I am trying to make, is it really so hard to condemn individuals and no have everything coated in an agenda? Condemn black racists, condemn colored racists, condemn white racists. And condemn them on an individual merit, not for what Frikkie did last week or Malema did yesterday, take this on a case to case basis. At some point you get tired of talking about "white people" instead of just people.

It also eliminates all discussion, you're basically educating people on why crime isn't racial or cultural on a weekly basis.

 

[OhYeah84]

Why should there be a big thing about this ...storm in a teacup? Nothing happened...

PS: I now read the new posts/comments and actually heard the " I don't like coloreds comments".
That is racist and not acceptable. Would love to see the colored community's reaction...and I hope it is epic.

What I meant was will there be a big song-and-dance about this seeing as how it was black on coloured (vs white on black)? Racist comments are racist comments no matter the skin colour and should all be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Will the EFF be dancing outside of the school, or do they only do that at certain times...

 

[PrimeSteak]

The point I am trying to make, is it really so hard to condemn individuals and no have everything coated in an agenda? Condemn black racists, condemn colored racists, condemn white racists. And condemn them on an individual merit, not for what Frikkie did last week or Malema did yesterday, take this on a case to case basis.

Totally agree with you here.

 

[Gyre]

It is not. You have no idea what you are talking about. The same language and concepts are used in South African schools and universities. We have the ultimate outcome of it vis-a-vie BEE and legal discrimination.

Or how about you explain why black on white racism is acceptable, or why black on coloured racism does not get proportional outcry?

Can you show me this "language and concepts" in government schools?

NO racism is acceptable, but neither is trying to wry the victim of a news article away into "our" camp.

Summary: A person was involved in racism, but look how bad us white people have it.

 

[R13...]

It is not. You have no idea what you are talking about. The same language and concepts are used in South African schools and universities. We have the ultimate outcome of it vis-a-vie BEE and legal discrimination.

Or how about you explain your opinion on why black on white racism is acceptable, or why black on coloured racism does not get a proportional outcry? The title of this article is not even a proper reflection of what happened.

Where's evidence of this CRT push in SA? Everything about race in this country is informed by the country's past.

 

[Wysjoumuis]

My kids teacher makes a bunch of tik tok videos, jumping around half naked and acting all crazy then expects the kidsat school to respect her. It does not work that way.

Where on tiktok can i find her?