iPhone 5 coming to 8ta; pre-orders open on Cell C and Vodacom

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Apparently Apple decides when to allow a network to activate LTE on the devices.

This means it won't connect to any SA LTE network at first.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57556471-37/iphone-5-gets-4g-lte-when-apple-says-so-not-carriers/

Also, the iPhone 5 seems to be not quite up to the standard of the others, as tested by the Gadget Show on this week's episode. If you are upgrading from the 3/3GS, it might be worth it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXJxcQxjekw&feature=youtu.be

If you do a Google search, the short battery life seems to be a real concern.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4334782?start=0&tstart=0
 
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Don't see pre-order option on vodacoms website. It distinctly says its not a pre-order.

Article seems high on speculation low on truth.
 
Don't see pre-order option on vodacoms website. It distinctly says its not a pre-order.

Article seems high on speculation low on truth.

The pre-order option on Vodacom's website is there. I pre-ordered a couple of days ago. Maybe they closed it.
 
link or it never happened

The Vodacom site says:

The much anticipated iPhone 5 will soon hit our stores. To receive further information such as the launch details and great deals, please leave us your e-mail below. You are signing up to receive communication on the iPhone 5 such as the launch details and pricing information. This is not a handset pre-order and doesn't guarantee a handset. Information on pre-order will be made available closer to the time of launch.
 
Apparently Apple decides when to allow a network to activate LTE on the devices.

This means it won't connect to any SA LTE network at first.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57556471-37/iphone-5-gets-4g-lte-when-apple-says-so-not-carriers/

Also, the iPhone 5 seems to be not quite up to the standard of the others, as tested by the Gadget Show on this week's episode. If you are upgrading from the 3/3GS, it might be worth it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXJxcQxjekw&feature=youtu.be

If you do a Google search, the short battery life seems to be a real concern.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4334782?start=0&tstart=0

Whilst I dont know for sure (as I dont have the 5 yet) I suspect this is an iOS6 settings configuration thing (a few of the guys on the thread advance the same theory)
When I upgraded to IOS6 on my iPhone 4 (my wifes at the same time) battery life declined a bit (not a lot) on both devices

A cursory glance through the settings meant I found that location services was at times on when it didnt need to be.
I also found the Stocks App a battery hog (and I criticise Apple for that.
A few quick taps and it was back to where it was before.

The System Services in the Location Settings is another area where users go wrong.
One big one to turn off is location based iAds

Where I do generalise about iPhone users, many non technical ones tend to open many, many apps and never close them.
Some people dont even know how to close Apps
 
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I enjoy a great red wine, and appreciate why I should pay 30-100% more in a good restaurant.
Why I would pay do much more for a "walled garden" escapes me
 
I enjoy a great red wine, and appreciate why I should pay 30-100% more in a good restaurant.
Why I would pay do much more for a "walled garden" escapes me

Walled garden? Unless you go android every garden is walled. Symbian, blackberry, wm8, iOS etc etc etc
 
Android is a walled garden anyway, because you have to use android, they just use clever words like "open"

Just like any other phone, if you root/jailbreak, you lose your warrantee. If t was truely open, this wouldn't be the case. And, if it was truely open, you could submit a bug fix, and it would be in the next release, but this is of course not the case, as android is not true open source no matter what people like to believe.

Of course none of this makes it bad either
 
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Android is a walled garden anyway, because you have to use android, they just use clever words like "open"

Just like any other phone, if you root/jailbreak, you lose your warrantee. If t was truely open, this wouldn't be the case. And, if it was truely open, you could submit a bug fix, and it would be in the next release, but this is of course not the case, as android is not true open source no matter what people like to believe.

Of course none of this makes it bad either

Well said.

It's going to be interesting to see how the budget SPs pricing works out.
 
The Vodacom site says:

The much anticipated iPhone 5 will soon hit our stores. To receive further information such as the launch details and great deals, please leave us your e-mail below. You are signing up to receive communication on the iPhone 5 such as the launch details and pricing information. This is not a handset pre-order and doesn't guarantee a handset. Information on pre-order will be made available closer to the time of launch.

Yes, I know. Cozinsky clearly didn't read the T&C's.
 
Android is a walled garden anyway, because you have to use android, they just use clever words like "open"

Just like any other phone, if you root/jailbreak, you lose your warrantee. If t was truely open, this wouldn't be the case. And, if it was truely open, you could submit a bug fix, and it would be in the next release, but this is of course not the case, as android is not true open source no matter what people like to believe.

Of course none of this makes it bad either

Just goes to show you that the android fan boys are even more brainwashed than the apple fan boys.
 
Android is a walled garden anyway, because you have to use android, they just use clever words like "open"

Just like any other phone, if you root/jailbreak, you lose your warrantee. If t was truely open, this wouldn't be the case. And, if it was truely open, you could submit a bug fix, and it would be in the next release, but this is of course not the case, as android is not true open source no matter what people like to believe.

Of course none of this makes it bad either

Agreed this locked in argument is a pile of cr@p because it applies to all the eco-systems.
Sure with Android you can move from Samsung to HTC etc. That is hardly the definition of being free.
The apps and content you own are applicable to Android only. So you are 'locked in' to Android.
Same goes with M/S, BB and Apple. Let see you move your content and apps from Android to M/S

I don't see this eco-system lock-in as lock in.

My analogy is that the various eco-systems are like clubs that have bars, gyms, movie houses other entertainment and even some office space.
The clubs are all nice with beer fridges and hot women (and men).

There are other clubs across town that are also nice (In some ways better, in some ways worse)
The door to your club is unlocked.
But its snowing outside, the taxi costs money and it wastes time.
The time, cost, effort and discomfort may not be worth the perceived added benefit.

So you dont move and that may be entirely rational.
 
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Agreed this locked in argument is a pile of cr@p because it applies to all the eco-systems.
Sure with Android you can move from Samsung to HTC etc. That is hardly the definition of being free.
The apps and content you own are applicable to Android only. So you are 'locked in' to Android.
Same goes with M/S, BB and Apple. Let see you move your content and apps from Android to M/S

I dont see this eco-system lock-in are lock in

My analogy is that the various eco-systems are like clubs that have bars, gyms, movie houses other entertainment and even some office.
The clubs are all nice with beer fridges and hot women (and men).

There are other clubs across town that are also nice (In some ways better, in some ways worse)
The door to your club is unlocked.
But its snowing outside, the taxi costs money and it wastes time.
The time, cost, effort and discomfort may not be worth the perceived added benefit.

So you dont move and that may be entirely rational.


Thats got to be the worst analogy I have ever heard :)
 
Vodacome pre-orders open now. Here are the deals (direct from their website):

Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R799 per month reduced subscription on iPhone Talk 500
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R769 per month reduced subscription on Smart Advanced
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R394 per month plus subscription on Everyday Off-Peak 120 (per second billing)
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R374 per month plus subscription on Everyday Off-Peak 120 (per minute billing)
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R370 per month plus subscription on Talk 75s
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R260 per month plus subscription on Talk 200
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R284 per month plus subscription on Talk 130
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R290 per month plus subscription on Talk 240
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R200 per month plus subscription on Talk 350s
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R304 per month plus subscription on Top Up 315 (per minute billing)
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R334 per month plus subscription on Top Up 315s
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R260 per month plus subscription on Top Up 400s
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R230 per month plus subscription on Top Up 500s
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R200 per month plus subscription on Top Up 590
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R160 per month plus subscription on Talk 500
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R60 per month plus subscription on Talk 1000
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R280 per month plus subscription on Talk 120
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R120 per month plus subscription on Top Up 1000
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R250 per month plus subscription on iPhone Everyday Off-Peak 120
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R129 per month plus subscription on iPhone Talk 120
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black FREE on iPhone Talk 240
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R264 per month plus subscription on Smart Light
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R220 per month plus subscription on Smart Standard 229
Apple iPhone 5 16GB Black @ R109 per month plus subscription on Smart Standard
 
Agreed this locked in argument is a pile of cr@p because it applies to all the eco-systems.
Sure with Android you can move from Samsung to HTC etc. That is hardly the definition of being free.
The apps and content you own are applicable to Android only. So you are 'locked in' to Android.
Same goes with M/S, BB and Apple. Let see you move your content and apps from Android to M/S

I dont see this eco-system lock-in are lock in

My analogy is that the various eco-systems are like clubs that have bars, gyms, movie houses other entertainment and even some office.
The clubs are all nice with beer fridges and hot women (and men).

There are other clubs across town that are also nice (In some ways better, in some ways worse)
The door to your club is unlocked.
But its snowing outside, the taxi costs money and it wastes time.
The time, cost, effort and discomfort may not be worth the perceived added benefit.

So you dont move and that may be entirely rational.

Then apple is the club with the high entrance fee and massive bouncers but the hottest chicks, Android you still pay an entrance fee and the place is filled with chicks but only a few are hot and they get lost amongst the mingers... the windows club is filled with dudes.
 
Then apple is the club with the high entrance fee and massive bouncers but the hottest chicks, Android you still pay an entrance fee and the place is filled with chicks but only a few are hot and they get lost amongst the mingers... the windows club is filled with dudes.

All true and you can catch the clap in Club Android but my point is once you are in the club of your choice your can't be arsed to move to another.
Its a hassle. Freedom to move? Yes. Easy to move? Not so much.
And thats where the perception of lock in comes and they are all the same there.
 
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