IPL Cricket vs F1 Motor racing

Rubberpigg

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Anyone else find that IPL Cricket is more entertaining than F1?
Bernie Ecclestone had better start doing something very quickly.
 

Badprop_za

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That is why I stopped watching F1 a couple of years ago already. It just was not interesting anymore.
 

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Aren't both more of the same, albeit different playing surfaces?
 

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Not really a fan of IPL because I find it difficult to support a particular team, however I would choose it over F1 any day of the week.
 

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The F1 yesterday was rather exciting. The accident at towards end caused a big upset in the end.
IPL was good for maybe the first three seasons, now it is just a huge money making thing
 

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TBH only time I was watching is when a SA player was involved. I.e. AB is batting, then I will look until he is dismissed. Then change channels.

I watched the 1st week maybe. My problem is that after every boundary there is a mini-disco session. Gets annoying. I will rather leave Mr Morrison on commentary for a later discussion.
 

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The F1 yesterday was rather exciting. The accident at towards end caused a big upset in the end.
IPL was good for maybe the first three seasons, now it is just a huge money making thing

Before the accident, the top 5 positions hadn't changed. I was falling asleep watching that race.
 

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The F1 yesterday was rather exciting. The accident at towards end caused a big upset in the end.
IPL was good for maybe the first three seasons, now it is just a huge money making thing

Uhm... this is exactly what F1 is all about!

I used to love my F1! I'd never miss a race, no matter what.. However, the key word is "race" which is precisely what F1 lacks these days. There is no more racing. Heaven forbid you try race someone. Slight contact, penalty. Blocking, penalty. Cross that white line, penalty. Too far behind the safety car, penalty. etc.. And don't even get me started on this DRS nonsense. It's synthetic overtaking at best. You get catapulted in front of another driver, and he dare not try stop you as he'll just get a penalty for blocking. There's nothing he can do about it.

Every race is a formality. Hamilton vs Rosberg.. Before that it was the Red Bull show. Brawn GP before that. Renault, Ferrari, etc etc. There needs to be a budget cap (among other rules) to prevent the sport from continuing to be a one horse race. The problem is that there's so much money in it, that certain teams hold the sport ransom. Not to mention Bernie Ecclestone who only seems to care about money. Heck, some of the best and most historic race tracks are gone because Ecclestone wanted too much money (hence the move to Dubai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, etc).

Don't get me wrong, I still watch F1 but I no longer make a point of watching it. I don't really care if I miss a race anymore as it's generally all over once the first corner is done. Man, I wish they would change some rules to make it a more level playing field, bring back refueling, change the qualifying format, etc. It could really become more exciting again. Just my 2 cents..

Any that is why I watch the IPL over F1.
 

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Uhm... this is exactly what F1 is all about!

I used to love my F1! I'd never miss a race, no matter what.. However, the key word is "race" which is precisely what F1 lacks these days. There is no more racing. Heaven forbid you try race someone. Slight contact, penalty. Blocking, penalty. Cross that white line, penalty. Too far behind the safety car, penalty. etc.. And don't even get me started on this DRS nonsense. It's synthetic overtaking at best. You get catapulted in front of another driver, and he dare not try stop you as he'll just get a penalty for blocking. There's nothing he can do about it.

Every race is a formality. Hamilton vs Rosberg.. Before that it was the Red Bull show. Brawn GP before that. Renault, Ferrari, etc etc. There needs to be a budget cap (among other rules) to prevent the sport from continuing to be a one horse race. The problem is that there's so much money in it, that certain teams hold the sport ransom. Not to mention Bernie Ecclestone who only seems to care about money. Heck, some of the best and most historic race tracks are gone because Ecclestone wanted too much money (hence the move to Dubai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, etc).

Don't get me wrong, I still watch F1 but I no longer make a point of watching it. I don't really care if I miss a race anymore as it's generally all over once the first corner is done. Man, I wish they would change some rules to make it a more level playing field, bring back refueling, change the qualifying format, etc. It could really become more exciting again. Just my 2 cents..

Any that is why I watch the IPL over F1.

+10000000

My brother also never missed a race. Including qualifying and warmups (whatever is broadcast) He loves F1 to the extreme, and even he is not making a point of watching anymore. Lately he was complaining the lack of the iconic F1 engine noise being gone.
 

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What F1 needs to be popular again:

. Different tyre manufacturers
. Re-fuelling
. Post stops for mechanical issues
. Allow more aggressive driving and defending

Where are the days where cars would limp to the pits to have a nose cone repaired sometimes even a broken wishbone on the wheels to just get back in the race as anything can happen. They would spend 20 minutes in the pits just to get back out there as who knows what can happen. It was a race till the end. Now it's just a sprint in qualifying and then running home for the victory from Pole. It's stupid and boring.

I'd much rather watch Nascar than this shyte.
 

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... Slight contact, penalty. Blocking, penalty. Cross that white line, penalty. Too far behind the safety car, penalty. etc.. And don't even get me started on this DRS nonsense. It's synthetic overtaking at best. You get catapulted in front of another driver, and he dare not try stop you as he'll just get a penalty for blocking. There's nothing he can do about it.


Doesn't sound like you watched yesterday.
 

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Doesn't sound like you watched yesterday.

That's correct. I didn't!

Over my dead body would I have missed the Monaco gran prix some years ago. Yesterday I went out for lunch in stead. Didn't even consider the F1 when I decided to go out. I did make sure I was home in time to watch the IPL final though. As a result, I did manage to catch the last 5 or so laps of yesterday's "race".

Also, as for small piece of my original comment that you've cherry picked, my complaints on the DRS are based on F1 in general, not any one race in particular. Monaco is one of the few circuits where DRS doesn't create "synthetic" overtaking because it's such a tight track.

Look at the current standings after 6 races:

1. Mercedes (Hamilton) - 126 points
2. Mercedes
3. Ferrari
4. Ferrari
5. Williams
6. Williams
7. Red Bull
8. Red Bull (Kvyat) - 17 points

Exciting, right? What about last season?

1. Mercedes (Hamilton) - 384 points
2. Mercedes
3. Red Bull (Ricciardo) - 238 points
4. Williams (Bottas) - 186 points

146 points between Hamilton and the next fastest driver (in a different team). 198 points between 1st and 4th!

What about 2013?

1. Vettel - 397 points
2. Alonso - 242 points

I guess we're all entitled to our opinions, and perhaps some people still find it exciting, I simply do not. I honestly feel like F1 can be made exciting once more, but there needs to be a number of rule changes, some of which have already been mentioned in this thread. I couldn't agree more with Badprop-za and Pitbull.
 

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Uhm... this is exactly what F1 is all about!

I used to love my F1! I'd never miss a race, no matter what.. However, the key word is "race" which is precisely what F1 lacks these days. There is no more racing. Heaven forbid you try race someone. Slight contact, penalty. Blocking, penalty. Cross that white line, penalty. Too far behind the safety car, penalty. etc.. And don't even get me started on this DRS nonsense. It's synthetic overtaking at best. You get catapulted in front of another driver, and he dare not try stop you as he'll just get a penalty for blocking. There's nothing he can do about it.

Every race is a formality. Hamilton vs Rosberg.. Before that it was the Red Bull show. Brawn GP before that. Renault, Ferrari, etc etc. There needs to be a budget cap (among other rules) to prevent the sport from continuing to be a one horse race. The problem is that there's so much money in it, that certain teams hold the sport ransom. Not to mention Bernie Ecclestone who only seems to care about money. Heck, some of the best and most historic race tracks are gone because Ecclestone wanted too much money (hence the move to Dubai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, etc).

Don't get me wrong, I still watch F1 but I no longer make a point of watching it. I don't really care if I miss a race anymore as it's generally all over once the first corner is done. Man, I wish they would change some rules to make it a more level playing field, bring back refueling, change the qualifying format, etc. It could really become more exciting again. Just my 2 cents..

Any that is why I watch the IPL over F1.

Agreed that F1 is also huge on sponsorships. But it is better than "lets have a (mobile brand) time out" and "Today's (TV brand) man of the match is".

IPL has changed a lot over time. Still exciting every now and then.

Also can't expect that much overtaking on the Monaco circuit
 

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I still love my f1..i have however been watching the past 2 years blancpain gt's also,u can watch it on youtube free live streaming,just an option for u motorsport fans
 

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What F1 needs to be popular again:

. Different tyre manufacturers
. Re-fuelling
. Post stops for mechanical issues
. Allow more aggressive driving and defending

Where are the days where cars would limp to the pits to have a nose cone repaired sometimes even a broken wishbone on the wheels to just get back in the race as anything can happen. They would spend 20 minutes in the pits just to get back out there as who knows what can happen. It was a race till the end. Now it's just a sprint in qualifying and then running home for the victory from Pole. It's stupid and boring.

I'd much rather watch Nascar than this shyte.

I don't think re-fueling will add to the excitement. It will make things more boring. The incentive to overtake on the track is gone because the driver behind knows that the if the guy in front is under-fueled he just needs to wait to pit. Pump in a few good laps and then pit and rejoin back in the lead. During the days of re-fuelling there was much less overtaking that we see now, granted its a little assisted with DRS. But thats exactly why it was brought in. Fans complained about very little overtaking in 2010(Alonso-Petrov in Abu-Dhabi:mad:) Re-fueling adds to the cost for the teams as they have to cart around re-fueling rigs around the world. No re-fueling saved them about 500 000 Euros a year. Now thats not much for someone like Ferrari/Red Bull/Mercedes etc. but to a team like the Sauber's and Manor's. It's quite a bit of money they could've used elsewhere.

I agree with the tyre war. We need a tyre war. This will bring more durable tyres and it wil help with the racing aspect of things. Drivers will push harder.

Also, the FIA have instructed the stewards to be less draconian on the drivers with regards to overtaking moves. So the drivers are allowed to be slightly aggressive but not to a point where you start breaking bodywork.

The strategy group that "discusses" the way forward is a pot of s*** in my opinion. All team principals are going to look after themselves and will never make any concessions.
As Christian Horner put it rather eloquently two weeks ago:
I mean it’s rather predictable. Bob’s going to ask for more money, Toto’s going to not want to change anything and we want to change engines
 
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I find both boring and annoying. My new fav to watch is cycling surprisingly, mainly because we have a South African team racing, but interesting sport, lots of tactics on display.
 

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The problem with IPL is it's crammed into a short period and there's an exhaustion of games in the same stadiums over a short period of time. F1 on the other hand takes the follower around the world and locations are well spread out a bit like Champions League Football but that's limited to Europe.

F1 and WRC's problem is other rival motorsports providing more entertainment like MotoGP, DTM, FIA WEC and FIA GT. Even GP2 is more thrilling to watch.
 

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Don't think I've ever watched a full F1 race. I've done plenty of pro20's. Can't see the appeal.
 
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