Iran's Internet Shutdown Extends to 5th Day, Further Harming Economy

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surface said:
sure, I really meant to know if "aryan" is included in modern day DNA analysis. I am aware of aryan term from school day sanskrit studies and some other meanings as you mention above.
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Some do. It's listed as something like Steppe Nomad or something along those lines.
 
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Nicodeamus said:
I wouldn't say that it was that simple. People often Romanticism the Shah. He was a brutal dictator and had his own security force that resembles the revolutionary guard today. The mosques were the only way to congregate without being persecuted. The problem was that the most rural and uneducated people of Iran at the time mobilized behind a theocratic maniac. As soon as he got into power Khomeini persecuted everyone who spoke out against the Shah and imposed ridiculous religious laws onto the country. It is the old story where one tyrant is placed with another one that is much worse. Then the war with Sadam Hussein happened and basically France and the USA profited by selling weapons to both side.

Iran's contradiction is that Khomeini did expand education to women, not because he was virtuous, but because most men died in the war. I have not met a single Iranian that didn't lose either an Uncle or Father in the war with Sadam Hussein.

Khomeini went further by giving women grants to have lots of children. Most Iranians grew up in 4-5 family homes. As a result the younger generation is now bigger than the older and they are sitting with a very educated youth that simply cannot find any work. Most Iranians can see right through religion and their government, but the price for dissenting is that you're either executed or thrown in jail.

The whole story is quite tragic. My GF's opinion is that Iranians all want a revolution, but they already saw what happened the last time, so most of them are trying to outlive the regime.

You find intense contradictions in the country. It has for example more women in science and mathematics than most western countries. Every Iranian makes wine in their own private cellars and the country has the largest condom factory in the world.

Iran is not your average Arab backwards country, it is quite technologically advanced, but it has a religious maniac in power.
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So those persecuted under the shah were religious leaders looking to bring Islam back into Iranian culture?
Would you say Iranians live a kind of pseudo-Islam and still very much cling to the ideology as it was before 1979.

Publicly though, they are forced to toe the line and be good obedient muslims. Amazing how Iranians integrate with other religions and cultures whereas in many areas sunnis prefer to be closed off and cling to sharia beliefs.


I think the Ramy tv series reflects a lot of this as well.
 
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https://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/iran.html
Iran began restoring internet access in the capital and a number of provinces after a five-day nationwide shutdown meant to help stifle deadly protests over fuel-price hikes.The country's elite Revolutionary Guard security force said calm had now returned across Iran on Thursday, state TV reported.


"The internet is being gradually restored in the country," the semi-official news agency Fars reported, quoting unidentified "informed sources".The National Security Council that ordered the shutdown approved reactivating the internet in "some areas", it said.


According to news reports, fixed-line internet was restored in Hormozgan, Kermanshah, Arak, Mashhad, Qom, Tabriz, Hamadan and Bushehr provinces, as well as parts of Tehran."We again have internet as of an hour ago," a retired engineer, who declined to be named, said by telephone from the capital.
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www.aljazeera.com

Iran loosens internet restrictions after protest shutdown

Internet access ‘gradually being restored’ as cyberspace official says the country will have full access in two days.
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FrankCastle said:
So those persecuted under the shah were religious leaders looking to bring Islam back into Iranian culture?
Would you say Iranians live a kind of pseudo-Islam and still very much cling to the ideology as it was before 1979.
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They were not the only ones that were persecuted. The Shah's security forces also rounded dissidents and threw them in jail. There is a lot of resentment towards America in particular for their intervention in the Middle East, but like in SA the government overuses Western Influence as an excuse for their problems.

Iran in the 70s was still a largely peasant society. Women in many traditional areas were not allowed to go to school. My GF's mother for example had to learn to read and write via her parents. The only good thing that Khomeini did was to expand education to women (dictators often get 1 thing right).

The Shah wanted to break this system through a series of reforms known as the white revolution and it angered the clergy and Land Lords. The problem was that the land reform programme in particular was badly planned. Many of the peasants were dependent on their former land owners for support and with poor financing they essentially were given farms that they couldn't manage themselves. Then we also need to read this with the background of the cold war. The Shah overspent on his military and had one of the largest standing armies on earth. All of this resources had to come out of the development.

Publicly though, they are forced to toe the line and be good obedient muslims. Amazing how Iranians integrate with other religions and cultures whereas in many areas sunnis prefer to be closed off and cling to sharia beliefs.


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Many Iranians life double lifes. Our in the street they ''conform'', but at home they try and live as if they are western people.

Also we talk about ''Iranians'' as if it was a homogeneous people. The Persian population for example is now a minority in their own country. They have lots of separate problems with the Kurds, Arabs and the Azerbaijanis for example. Then on top of that the mismanagement of the ecology is going to result in a water shortage.

 
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