[Ireland] Teacher who refused to use student's gender-neutral pronouns condemns 'insanity' as he is JAILED in Ireland

[wingnut771]

Because they can

Seems like a lot of trouble to go through

 

[Gyre]

Seems like a lot of trouble to go through

No harder than being born female, black, gay, short, disabled, etc. People exist and have to live with who they are for the rest of their lives, no use crying about it.

 

[wingnut771]

No harder than being born female, black, gay, short, disabled, etc. People exist and have to live with who they are for the rest of their lives, no use crying about it.

You seem to think I have a problem with it.

Someone asked WHY we have transgender people.

 

[Gyre]

You seem to think I have a problem with it.

Someone asked WHY we have transgender people.

Sorry, I didn't mean you were crying, I meant people get dealt a hand in life and have to accept it. You could be a gay man in Iraq - life isn't meant to be fair, but we make the best of it that we can.

I'm saying if someone feels different, we're never going to know what that person feels, we cannot share every experience but we can't stop being who we think we are.

 

[wingnut771]

Sorry, I didn't mean you were crying, I meant people get dealt a hand in life and have to accept it. You could be a gay man in Iraq - life isn't meant to be fair, but we make the best of it that we can.

I'm saying if someone feels different, we're never going to know what that person feels, we cannot share every experience but we can't stop being who we think we are.

The only person who has answered the question is @konfab. I said social media. Still waiting for other theories but I doubt there will be any.

 

[Gyre]

The only person who has answered the question is @konfab. I said social media. Still waiting for other theories but I doubt there will be any.

Trans people existed before social media?

History of transgender people in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read up on Albert D. J. Cashier as well - had he stayed a woman, he would never had been allowed to fight, but because he identified and registered as a man, he was allowed to participate in the war.

 

[wingnut771]

Trans people existed before social media?

History of transgender people in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read up on Albert D. J. Cashier as well - had he stayed a woman, he would never had been allowed to fight, but because he identified and registered as a man, he was allowed to participate in the war.

Yes they did.

I meant the whole pronoun thing started with social media.

 

[Gyre]

Yes they did.

I meant the whole pronoun thing started with social media.

Lots of things started on social media, I mean a couple of years ago we were typing a/s/l in chat - now we can see people upfront, we can even search for people on Tinder based on preferences. Having things visible on your profile helps you attract like-minded people, just like flags, mottos, symbols, labels, etc.

 

[wingnut771]

Lots of things started on social media, I mean a couple of years ago we were typing a/s/l in chat - now we can see people upfront, we can even search for people on Tinder based on preferences. Having things visible on your profile helps you attract like-minded people, just like flags, mottos, symbols, labels, etc.

Can we just stick to the pronoun thing without going off on a tangent?

 

[Gyre]

Can we just stick to the pronoun thing without going off on a tangent?

You are suggesting the pronoun thing is a phenomenon on its own? I'm providing context, social media's purpose is to meet other people, and people will put out their criteria for meeting other people.

It's as silly as me complaining that a woman puts "christian" in her profile when she wants to meet other christians - the more info there is on a profile, the better you know what you are dealing with. if someone puts estate agent on their profile for example, I avoid them like the plague.

 

[konfab]

Trans people existed before social media?

History of transgender people in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read up on Albert D. J. Cashier as well - had he stayed a woman, he would never had been allowed to fight, but because he identified and registered as a man, he was allowed to participate in the war.

Of course trannys exist.

 

[borro]

 

[Gyre]

Of course trannys exist. View attachment 1380087

Regardless of your opinion on it, they're happy with their identity/delusions just as much as the christian teacher is with theirs. People need to adjust their lives accordingly to adapt in society.

 

[konfab]

Regardless of your opinion on it, they're happy with their identity/delusions just as much as the christian teacher is with theirs. People need to adjust their lives accordingly to adapt in society.

I don't have a problem with trannies provided they do the following:
Don't force your lunatic beliefs on other people.

This includes:
1) Don't advocate children to have life altering hormone and surgical "treatment"
2) Only participate as your biological sex when doing sex selective sports.
3) Don't force other people to accept your dumb pronouns and stupid "new name".
4) Use the bathroom for your biological sex
5) Don't allow children to go to sexually explicit drag queen shows and don't allow them to participate in them.

The broader principle as listed above is exactly the same criteria that I have for other religions.

If some idiot wants to give themselves an axe wound, permenant UTIs and phantom d!ck syndrome, and they are above the age of 18, I say go for it. Gene pool needs chlorine.

 

[kolaval]

He should just have someone burn the school down, african style.

 

[Gyre]

I don't have a problem with trannies provided they do the following:
Don't force your lunatic beliefs on other people.

This includes:
1) Don't advocate children to have life altering hormone and surgical "treatment"
2) Only participate as your biological sex when doing sex selective sports.
3) Don't force other people to accept your dumb pronouns and stupid "new name".
4) Use the bathroom for your biological sex
5) Don't allow children to go to sexually explicit drag queen shows and don't allow them to participate in them.

The broader principle as listed above is exactly the same criteria that I have for other religions.

If some idiot wants to give themselves an axe wound, permenant UTIs and phantom d!ck syndrome, and they are above the age of 18, I say go for it. Gene pool needs chlorine.

All fair points, so you'd agree with my implementation plans too?

1.) No religion before the child is an adult, only adults are allowed to attend religious ceremonies and preaching/trainings
2.) As above, keep religion out of schools and away from children, both public and private
3.) Ban books introducing kids to religion or changing biblical stories to be more appealing to children
4.) Tax religious institutions
5.) Ban religious and ritualistic mutilation of children

As with physical mutilation, if adults want to psychologically damage themselves, let them do it from a point of view of being a consenting adult

 

[Grant]

As if the reasons behind the court order don't matter.

Pretty much why he got locked up
The court handed down a ruling with reasons - reasons that clearly mean nothing to the man.

 

[Paulsie]

Not following your logic here. The reason for the court order is him insisting on entering the premises despite being suspended. Pretty straightforward case.

Not following your logic here. The reason for the court order is him insisting on entering the premises despite being suspended. Pretty straightforward case.

Shouldn't we perhaps be talking about the stupidity of his suspension in the first place?

 

[Grant]

All fair points, so you'd agree with my implementation plans too?

1.) No religion before the child is an adult, only adults are allowed to attend religious ceremonies and preaching/trainings
2.) As above, keep religion out of schools and away from children, both public and private
3.) Ban books introducing kids to religion or changing biblical stories to be more appealing to children
4.) Tax religious institutions
5.) Ban religious and ritualistic mutilation of children

As with physical mutilation, if adults want to psychologically damage themselves, let them doing it from a point of view of being a consenting adult

You left one out:

Don't force other people to accept your dumb pronouns and stupid "new name".

Henceforth, married women will not be referred as Mrs. And the stupid new married name is to be ignored as well.

 

[Grant]

Shouldn't we perhaps be talking about the stupidity of his suspension in the first place?

Here is a clue:

as requested by the student and their parents in May, and agreed to by the Church of Ireland school.

Ignore your employer at your own risk