[Ireland] Teacher who refused to use student's gender-neutral pronouns condemns 'insanity' as he is JAILED in Ireland

vigras rojara

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Shouldn't we perhaps be talking about the stupidity of his suspension in the first place?
The fact that he elected to ignore the court order and carried on attending the school, points to the possibility that he is a rather militant type.

His behaviour pattern may well explain the initial suspension.
 

Paulsie

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Here is a clue:

Ignore your employer at your own risk
Precisely the point I raise. Since when has the Church of Ireland gone so woke?

/answers himself
I guess since the catholic priest scandals.
 

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The fact that he elected to ignore the court order and carried on attending the school, points to the possibility that he is a rather militant type.

His behaviour pattern may well explain the initial suspension.
I don't have a problem with the jailing. Just would like to know more about the details of the suspension.

As mentioned by others, the press is not a reliable source of information.
 

vigras rojara

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I don't have a problem with the jailing. Just would like to know more about the details of the suspension.

As mentioned by others, the press is not a reliable source of information.
Fair enough. I doubt whether the Daily Fail is particularly interested in reporting on that though.
 

rietrot

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Resigning and moving to a more conservative school would have been an better option. Let the progressives fskup their schools.
 

Some Eejit

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Precisely the point I raise. Since when has the Church of Ireland gone so woke?

/answers himself
I guess since the catholic priest scandals.

Church of Ireland is not Catholic. Also, it seems he was disciplined for his behaviour rather than his beliefs.


The school claims that last June a service and dinner was held to mark the school’s 260th anniversary It was attended by clergy, staff, past and present pupils, parents, and board members.

It is claimed that Mr Burke interrupted the service and said that the school’s principal, Ms Niamh McShane, should withdraw the earlier demand regarding the transitioning of the student, that he could not agree with transgenderism, and said it went against the school’s ethos and the teaching of the Church of Ireland.





The school claims that after he spoke members of the congregation and students walked out of the school chapel.

It is claimed that at the follow-up dinner Mr Burke did not sit at any table.

After the meal he is alleged to have approached the Principal, and again asked her to withdraw the request regarding the student.

The school claims that she said she would speak to Mr Burke at a appropriate time and place, and walked away from him.

It is claimed that he continued to follow her and questioned her loudly.

Other people stood between them to prevent the continuation of his questioning; it is further claimed.

Arising out of Mr Burke’s alleged conduct a disciplinary process was commenced
, and considered by the board, resulting in a decision to place him on administrative leave pending the outcome of the process.
 

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Precisely the point I raise. Since when has the Church of Ireland gone so woke?

/answers himself
I guess since the catholic priest scandals.
Maybe its a "love thy neighbour" kind of thing - even if the neighbor is a homo / black / widow / Chinese / transgender / or whatever.

Not love thy neighbor provided he is not a homo / black /...
 

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It is impossible to understand the struggle people have with others pronouns. Hiding behind religion is cowardly; no religion says do not call people by the pronoun they choose. The world is simpler if someone actually tells you what to call them by and it’s quite narcissistic to refuse that on the basis of belief. So if I tell him to call me Mohammed will he say his beliefs retrain him from doing so?
 

TheMightyQuinn

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Where was he compelled? A requirement of his job was to refer to the kid by their preferred pronoun, he chose not to and was suspended... He is welcome to not use that pronoun he is also welcome not to teach at that school.

You do know that employers can have policies dictating the behavior of their employees right?
Only within the confinements and stipulations of Labour Law.
 

TheMightyQuinn

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All fair points, so you'd agree with my implementation plans too?

1.) No religion before the child is an adult, only adults are allowed to attend religious ceremonies and preaching/trainings
2.) As above, keep religion out of schools and away from children, both public and private
3.) Ban books introducing kids to religion or changing biblical stories to be more appealing to children
4.) Tax religious institutions
5.) Ban religious and ritualistic mutilation of children

As with physical mutilation, if adults want to psychologically damage themselves, let them do it from a point of view of being a consenting adult
I agree with the above 100%

Religion is a scourge that should be wiped from the face of the earth.
 

TheMightyQuinn

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The fact that he elected to ignore the court order and carried on attending the school, points to the possibility that he is a rather militant type.

His behaviour pattern may well explain the initial suspension.
I agree...these are the kind of people that make a mountain out of this molehill. It's easy to circumvent this pronoun BS in real life...but he decided to take a religious stand, which is JUST as ridiculous as the pronoun request.

Just ignore the little **** and do not address him directly at all...problem solved and job kept.
 

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I agree...these are the kind of people that make a mountain out of this molehill. It's easy to circumvent this pronoun BS in real life...but he decided to take a religious stand, which is JUST as ridiculous as the pronoun request.

Just ignore the little **** and do not address him directly at all...problem solved and job kept.
Easiest way...
 

konfab

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All fair points, so you'd agree with my implementation plans too?

1.) No religion before the child is an adult, only adults are allowed to attend religious ceremonies and preaching/trainings
2.) As above, keep religion out of schools and away from children, both public and private
3.) Ban books introducing kids to religion or changing biblical stories to be more appealing to children
4.) Tax religious institutions
5.) Ban religious and ritualistic mutilation of children

As with physical mutilation, if adults want to psychologically damage themselves, let them do it from a point of view of being a consenting adult

Except the enforcement of what you want requires a Chinese style dictatorship.

The only thing that is enforceable is the ban of genital mutilation.
 

konfab

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You left one out:

Henceforth, married women will not be referred as Mrs. And the stupid new married name is to be ignored as well.
My wife doesn't go into existential dread and threaten to kill herself if someone doesn't use Mrs or they use her maiden name. And she has somehow managed to not lay a case of gender discrimination against someone who used her old email address.
 

konfab

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Precisely the point I raise. Since when has the Church of Ireland gone so woke?

/answers himself
I guess since the catholic priest scandals.
Catholic church can finally groom children and progressives are taking its side.
 
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