- Aug 22, 2009
I don't understand what you are trying to say here... I was saying that even if doctors labelled every death as coronavirus the amount of total all cause deaths would still be higher than in recent years. You are saying I should not be comparing it to normal, I should be comparing it to a flu pandemic. Why?Way more deaths than before when? I see the graph only shows numbers from 2017-18 for context. There was no Flu epidemic then.
The 275/million Covid deaths in the peak week shown above + the 150 normal deaths adds up to 425/million or 43/100,000. See the graph below for a more severe Flu pandemic in a major city, 120/100,000- Liverpool Jan 13 1951. Funny thing is the UK's economy grew 3.7% in 1951 when this disaster unfolded.
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Comparison of 1951 epidemic (A/H1N1) with the 1918 and 1957 pandemics (A/H1N1 and A/H2N2, respectively) in Liverpool, England. Time series of weekly death rates from all causes. Epidemics were aligned at the week of peak mortality (peak week = week ended Feb 22, 1919; Jan 13, 1951; Oct 12, 1957). The 1918 pandemic occurred in 3 waves in Liverpool (summer 1918, autumn 1918, winter 1919); the "third wave" was associated with the highest death rate and is represented here.
There were 240/100,000 excess winter deaths in the UK in 1951 which equates to 144000 deaths today. So far there were 17000 confirmed Covid-19 deaths in the UK, but probably 25,000 based on excess deaths reported.
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Are you saying that the figures given for Covid-19 are actually caused by a flu pandemic?
Yeah it's a fact that doctors don't just willy nilly label everyone a coronavirus victim until proven otherwise, not the other way round. Same as it's a fact that the pope doesn't fly to the moon until proven otherwise.So you are alledging that even with greater funding available to hospitals which show increased covid cases that people are acting honestly ?
While we would all love it if that was the case , human history shows us its not a thing which happens.
Yeah your example would be the same except you claimed fact ,facts have sources .tata.