Is Covid-19 just a hype?

[buka001]

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Guess that noburger will be filled with poverty/homelessness/economic recession etc then.

That meme is about to get its a$$ handed to it.

US deaths are fast approaching 60k and will surpass it.

Will also surpass 80k.

 

[Jabulani22]

That meme is about to get its a$$ handed to it.

US deaths are fast approaching 60k and will surpass it.

Will also surpass 80k.

It's not a meme , it's actual projections , yes this meme shows the lowest of them.
Highest was 240k

 

[Misanthrope]

I believe scholars all over the world are trying to figure out how to change the Gregorian calender's concept of BC and AD to BC, DL and TEOTFW where

BC = Before Covid-19

DL = During lockdown

TEOTFW = The end of the f#$king world

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Well, 4 months into something new, and you expect to know the answers?

They already know the answer they like - it ain't a big deal, get over it.

 

[Forum Reader]

Peak deaths, not peak infections.

If you back calculate 2 weeks from peak deaths then you end up with March 21. The virus takes 14-21 days to kill.

and as we have seen there was no change in the rate of infections for the first few days before or after the lockdown

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I would lose to see an antibody test in London, perhaps the group immunity strategy worked or was working?

Do you truly believe that people going about their normal routine vs people locked down at home have similar infection rates and you need charts etc. to justify this to yourself? No wonder people think you are trolling.

 

[BackStabbath]

Covid is real but the lockdown now that’s just some hype.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Do you truly believe that people going about their normal routine vs people locked down at home have similar infection rates and you need charts etc. to justify this to yourself? No wonder people think you are trolling.

Your obviously not reading anything.

Again, people don’t just freeze in place. In reality we all go to Supermarkets, food gets delivered, etc etc.

Viruses are enormously efficient in spreading and we are far beyond the point where we can trace and track any of them.

Look at the so called lockdown in SA with what is going on in the townships or the trains that are still running in France with people on them.

People aren’t looking at the reality of what is happening around them, because they sucked up the lockdown myth like school kids.

My personal view is that the support for the lockdown comes from mostly middle class privledge people that have little idea of the damage that they are causing to the rest of those around them.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Viruses are enormously efficient in spreading and we are far beyond the point where we can trace and track any of them.

This is patently untrue and makes me think you're actually just trolling.

 

[Jabulani22]

It only takes 1 in 5 people to disobey LD and it will make it basically useless , from places on the web , no I don't have any sources but it makes sense.

 

[tetrasect]

It only takes 1 in 5 people to disobey LD and it will make it basically useless , from places on the web , no I don't have any sources but it makes sense.

Yet you carry on trying to convince people that the lockdown is bs and the virus is bs.

 

[Jabulani22]

Yet you carry on trying to convince people that the lockdown is bs and the virus is bs.

I'm not sure if you're a professional misunderstander or what , LD is very harmful to us as a country probably moreso than the virus and guess what , large portions of RSA are not obeying it.
So we could have carried on with a less draconian LD and had the best of both worlds .

 

[rambo919]

You seem to have three active teams:

• It's a plague, stay inside or WE ARE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEE
• It's just worse flu worsening the condition of people that are already close to death
• It's not a big deal at all

And then there's the fringe like me that see no point in fully participating (connecting my intellectual, moral or societal value to the side I picked) in this moronic team sport......

 

[Jabulani22]

Wasn't this thing supposed to be exponential growth ? Why hasn't it infected 3 Earth's worth of people ?
@rambo919
It's the world's govs to blame , cancelling cricket , rugby and soccer made this one of the only team sports allowed

 

[rambo919]

Wasn't this thing supposed to be exponential growth ? Why hasn't it infected 3 Earth's worth of people ?
@rambo919
It's the world's govs to blame , cancelling cricket , rugby and soccer made this one of the only team sports allowed

All I see are authority figures abusing the situation as an excuse to implement measures they could not otherwise. A collapsing ANC is clamping down on the masses, USA is moving it's manufacturing base back home, China is clamping down on everyone inside it's borders while crippling other economies which is strengthening it's economic position, the EU is having a show of relevance, etc.

Everyone is so obsessed with their irrelevant little personal bubbles they don't bother to look at the forest rather than a handful of trees.

 

[Superman-7]

Covid-19 has demonstrated very clearly that, despite the 'facts' being available for anyone who cared to look, every second person will have a different opinion regardless.

In a more general sense it illustrates that you should avoid believing anything you read in the media or what your neigbours/friends tell you. DYOR and make up your mind.

 

[Geoff.D]

Covid-19 has demonstrated very clearly that, despite the 'facts' being available for anyone who cared to look, every second person will have a different opinion regardless.

In a more general sense it illustrates that you should avoid believing anything you read in the media or what your neigbours/friends tell you. DYOR and make up your mind.

And keep your conclusion to yourself unless of course you respect the right of others' to DTOR and draw their own conclusions.

 

[flippakitten]

Up to 50% of the additional deaths were in care homes. The point is that these places were not protected by any country, no matter their strategy. My view is that our efforts should have been with them from the start, but again, can you really control the virus from spreading there?

Mortality associated with COVID-19 outbreaks in care homes: early international evidence

Data from 5 European countries suggest that care home residents have so far accounted for between 42 and 57% of all deaths related to COVID-19

ltccovid.org

how does it compare to children dying from flu or other diseases? I am not a parent, so yes, I don't get the worrying part, but statistically its insignificant.

UK put that age group into lock down first and for long, they didn't provide PPE for care home staff, heck they didn't even provide it for NHS workers, they're not even testing properly, they left lock down far too late and still had massive events. UK is the worst hit but the numbers have been covered up by not testing and ignoring care homes.

For the second point, toxic shock syndrome is absolutely brutal to children compared to the flu, so honestly death rate really doesn't matter to me. The long term effect of servere TSS is not fun.

 

[Forum Reader]

Your obviously not reading anything.

Again, people don’t just freeze in place. In reality we all go to Supermarkets, food gets delivered, etc etc.

Viruses are enormously efficient in spreading and we are far beyond the point where we can trace and track any of them.

Look at the so called lockdown in SA with what is going on in the townships or the trains that are still running in France with people on them.

People aren’t looking at the reality of what is happening around them, because they sucked up the lockdown myth like school kids.

My personal view is that the support for the lockdown comes from mostly middle class privledge people that have little idea of the damage that they are causing to the rest of those around them.

Do you still not get that interaction between people will always be less during a lockdown vs no lockdown? If you can't get that then I don't know what to say.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Do you still not get that interaction between people will always be less during a lockdown vs no lockdown? If you can't get that then I don't know what to say.

Yes people are moving less, but how do you really quantify that effect. Again its speculation that it does much. It sounds reasonable, but not if you go into the details and the practicality.

For example, it 1 guy to infect a supermark and the whole block has it.
Then you run into the obvious problem that some of these measures are unenforceable. Have you seen a photo of the townships lately?

New York already has 20% of its people infected, California is finding something similar, maybe the lock-down was to late or perhaps it wasn't enforceable anywhere outside of China from the beginning.
Sweden's death rates and infection rates are not out of the ordinary from their neighbours, neither is Tanzania compared to Kenya or Brazil compared to Latin America.

Just because we think that something works, doesn't mean that it does work.

 

[Nicodeamus]

This is patently untrue and makes me think you're actually just trolling.

Please tell me how we are going to track and trace the millions of Europeans or Americans that are currently infected.
or if South Africa has actually managed to do that given that we have such a low testing capacity?

During the initial stages you can eradicate this like South Korea and New Zealand did, but once the virus is in, it becomes impossible to keep track.