Is Covid-19 just a hype?

[flippakitten]

Here is a data driven model predicting the end of the virus. The organization is based in Singapore.

Data-Driven Innovation Lab

The Data-Driven Innovation Lab advances data science and artificial intelligence to inform, inspire and intelligentize the innovation process.

ddi.sutd.edu.sg

But again read a model like Nostradamus.

The model and data are inaccurate to the complex, evolving, and heterogeneous realities of different countries. Predictions are uncertain by nature. Readers must take any predictions with caution. Overly optimism based on some predicted end dates is dangerous because it may loosen our disciplines and controls and cause the turnaround of the virus and infection, and must be avoided.

From the paper under the caution section:

Such predictive monitoring for each country should be read together with what are happening in the real world and government policy changes. For instance, Singapore government’s strengthened restrictions in April may bend it curve earlier than the previously predicted ones, and the early relaxation of social distancing and lockdown in Italy and United States might increase infection rates and thus delay the ending as predicted now. Also, the predictive monitoring of a country should not be read in isolation, but together with the predictions and real time situations of other countries. No country is in isolation in the world today. The monitoring and control of one country must be coupled with the monitoring and control of other countries.

Nice find though but still tells us absolutely 0

If anything it stregthens the argument for lockdown.

 

[Geoff.D]

Or like the oke who pulls the gloves off with his teeth to phone wifey about something she wants in the shop.

 

[Lupus]

Yup with Omo.

Everytime you get home?

 

[Nicodeamus]

New ONS data is out



The death rate is only twice the rate of the average deaths that happen normally. Nothing to get concerned about.

Same Graph, just zoomed out a bit.

You are correct that the UK is facing something unprecedented in the last 5 years, and so is Sweden, but it is not the case all over Europe.

Graphs and maps from EUROMOMO

www.euromomo.eu

 

[Nicodeamus]

It is actually just England that is getting hit hard.

 

[Nicodeamus]

ok given the above, I was wrong about the number of fatalities. The peak is unprecedented in many countries.

It still doesn't convince me that all of these measures are needed. The Dutch had a Partial lock down and then went strict, Belgium didn't. Both countries got hit bad.

 

[Nicodeamus]

I will say this about England though;

Unlike the other countries they have a higher amount of dead people below 64.

In the rest of europe it is above 65.

 

[tetrasect]

Everytime you get home?

Yup, only left home like 2 or 3 times since the lockdown began.

 

[Murmaider]

so this is what I think right....
A bunch of really rich old people saw a virus killing old people and decided that shutting down the world to protect themselves was the best idea.

jokes not jokes


This is basically mother natures population control of humans.
It kill the sick, old and weak and at the end of it, the world will be left with the "fittest" humans and less over-population (if left to run it's course naturally). This however is really inconvenient to us humans though.

 

[tetrasect]

so this is what I think right....
A bunch of really rich old people saw a virus killing old people and decided that shutting down the world to protect themselves was the best idea.

jokes not jokes


This is basically mother natures population control of humans.
It kill the sick, old and weak and at the end of it, the world will be left with the "fittest" humans and less over-population (if left to run it's course naturally). This however is really inconvenient to us humans though.

Yip of course it would be good for the planet if people died, though I think the more humane solution to over-population is education so that people don't have so many kids anymore. If you look at fertility rates in Africa it's like 5-6 births per woman.

 

[Murmaider]

Yip of course it would be good for the planet if people died, though I think the more humane solution to over-population is education so that people don't have so many kids anymore. If you look at fertility rates in Africa it's like 5-6 births per woman.

Yeah no doubt at all about that.

 

[Superman-7]

I'm perplexed that there are people who aren't wearing masks because they read somewhere that it "doesn't work". This is a common-sense fail in my opinion - even if it has no effect protecting you, it might protect others from yourself.

Gloves I sort of get, although my main reason for wearing gloves is that I can get into my car with cleaner hands after having removed said gloves.

I suspect a lot of folk who are not wearing masks are doing so from a rebellious standpoint rather than a scientific one.

 

[buka001]

Same Graph, just zoomed out a bit.

You are correct that the UK is facing something unprecedented in the last 5 years, and so is Sweden, but it is not the case all over Europe.

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Graphs and maps from EUROMOMO

www.euromomo.eu

Greece lockdown was hard and fast.

UK lockdown was late. Cheltenham festival, football matches and music concerts were held.

I would hate too see the figures without the lockdown and they had just carried on

 

[Nicodeamus]

WHO reveals H1N1 committee's links with big pharma |

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www.ghwatch.org

An insider's view from the committee Professor Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC centre for outbreak analysis and modelling in the department of infectious disease epidemiology at Imperial College London, acted as an advisor to the emergency committee, and he too declared an interest (see table) as he had previously acted as a consultant to Roche and GSK.

He told Scrip that he had no current commercial interests at the time of his work with the emergency committee, and was not influenced in any way by his past interests.

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The first patients just enrolled in a trial testing the arthritis drug Actemra against the coronavirus. Results are expected in early summer.

Where is my tinfoil hit?

 

[Hamish McPanji]

WHO reveals H1N1 committee's links with big pharma |

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www.ghwatch.org

Business Insider South Africa

Fast, fun, fearless news about business and beyond.

www.businessinsider.fr

Where is my tinfoil hit?

You'd better find it quick. It's unlikely you would find anyone who hasn't had some link to big pharma

 

[Nicodeamus]

I'm perplexed that there are people who aren't wearing masks because they read somewhere that it "doesn't work". This is a common-sense fail in my opinion - even if it has no effect protecting you, it might protect others from yourself.

Gloves I sort of get, although my main reason for wearing gloves is that I can get into my car with cleaner hands after having removed said gloves.

I suspect a lot of folk who are not wearing masks are doing so from a rebellious standpoint rather than a scientific one.

Because there is no definite scientific proof for it?
It works on acute conditions, its a hype everywhere else.

The Face Mask Debate Reveals a Scientific Double Standard

No one complained about the lack of evidence for 20-second hand-washing. So why did we treat face masks differently?

www.wired.com

 

[Verde]

New ONS data is out

The provisional number of deaths registered in England and Wales in Week 16 (week ending 17 April 2020) increased from 18,516 in Week 15 (week ending 10 April 2020) to 22,351. This is 11,854 more deaths than the five-year average of 10,497 and is the highest weekly total since 1993, the earliest date where we have robust comparable figures

Yes it was the highest absolute total in a week, but still not the highest in proportion to the population (which is the right way to report it).
That distinction still goes to week 1-2000. I can't get over how bad the Flu we were spreading at our Y2K parties was. What gets me is how I did not even notice that epidemic, vs the obsession we are living through now .

 

[Nicodeamus]

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Yes it was the highest absolute total in a week, but still not the highest in proportion to the population (which is the right way to report it).
That distinction still goes to week 1-2000. I can't get over how bad the Flu we were spreading at our Y2K parties was. What gets me is how I did not even notice that epidemic, vs the obsession we are living through now .
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We were more concerned about the planes falling out of the sky, and the ATMs crashing. We didn't realise that there were coding errors that would pop up in program Human v0.45 , in the earth simulation

 

[tetrasect]

Yes it was the highest absolute total in a week, but still not the highest in proportion to the population (which is the right way to report it).
That distinction still goes to week 1-2000. I can't get over how bad the Flu we were spreading at our Y2K parties was. What gets me is how I did not even notice that epidemic, vs the obsession we are living through now .
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Don't forget that the recent numbers are not peak numbers like the 2000 numbers. In 2000 nothing was done to curb the infection rate whereas this years figures are just the beginning of a much bigger number which is exactly why lockdowns were initiated.