Is Covid-19 just a hype?

[Lupus]

Maybe we're looking at different data? I'm commenting on the numbers published here: https://mediahack.co.za/datastories/coronavirus/dashboard/

The numbers released by the government, by taking a look at the numbers on the 3 days and using math to get the answers.

 

[Jabulani22]

All that says is that you don't really need a lock down if people are willing to take sensible precautions all on their own. The opposite is true, in that if people won't take precautions it won't matter how hard you lock down, they'll still go and infect themselves.

Also lockdowns don't work nearly as well as power expanding governments want you to think.

 

[buka001]

or just isolate them and the elderly while the economy doesn't tank. Much more sensible to me.
People just cannot stay home for much longer, the lockdown sounds nice in theory, but it is losing support in SA. We have to be realistic.

20% of the population has AIDS, how can you isolate them, but keep the rest of the population open, if you still have Ro in the region of 3?

 

[tetrasect]

The numbers released by the government, by taking a look at the numbers on the 3 days and using math to get the answers.

Sorry to say I trust their math more than yours.

 

[Lupus]

Sorry to say I trust their math more than yours.

By taking the positive cases/tests done *100 you get the percentage. It's not rocket science and it's been between 2 to 3% since the start. It's not shot up to 3%

 

[Nicodeamus]

20% of the population has AIDS, how can you isolate them, but keep the rest of the population open, if you still have Ro in the region of 3?

R0 is a statistical derivation, I don't read to much into it.

What you can do is to treat everyone with hydroxichloroquine like they did in Marseilles. Test, detect, treat and followup.

Its more sensible.

People that are HIV positive need to take some personal responsibility (and honestly if they used a condom in the past then they wouldn't be where they are now).

I am still eating my popcorn to see how South Africa is pulling off this lockdown, so far I am seeing people standing in line for food and breaking the rules.

 

[tetrasect]

By taking the positive cases/tests done *100 you get the percentage. It's not rocket science and it's been between 2 to 3% since the start. It's not shot up to 3%

You're wrong.



We can see from the above that the lockdown made a big impact but we're slowly loosing track instead of catching up.

 

[Nicodeamus]

You're wrong.

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We can see from the above that the lockdown made a big impact but we're slowly loosing track instead of catching up.

I don't think there is anything to make of it other than we did more tests for each week onwards. You cannot make anything out of SA's results.

It seems that we might have had 2 waves.


It doesn't seem that the 2nd one is growing any slower than the first.

 

[Geoff.D]

Yes it's risen from 2% to 3% over the last month even though our testing has increased from 4000 to 12800 tests per day over the last month. The virus is outpacing us.

at a total of approx 13 000 tests per day, with WC doing about 4 000 per day, that leaves the rest of the country doing 9 000 tests per day. Makes one wonder how many are being done on GP?

 

[buka001]

R0 is a statistical derivation, I don't read to much into it.

What you can do is to treat everyone with hydroxichloroquine like they did in Marseilles. Test, detect, treat and followup.

Its more sensible.

People that are HIV positive need to take some personal responsibility (and honestly if they used a condom in the past then they wouldn't be where they are now).

I am still eating my popcorn to see how South Africa is pulling off this lockdown, so far I am seeing people standing in line for food and breaking the rules.

Well epidemiologists read into it, so I will trust their view on how the Ro affects transmission.

How has hydroxchloroquine been tested with patients with HIV/AIDS? Studies by the VA in the USA basically killed off its vaunted efficacy as a treatment option.

It is not practical, but given the prevalence of AIDS and TB, it is all that SA has at its disposal to arrest a massive surge in deaths because of those major factors.

 

[tetrasect]

I don't think there is anything to make of it other than we did more tests for each week onwards. You cannot make anything out of SA's results.

As testing increases you would expect the number of positives per test to go down. That would signify that we are getting ahead as far as tracing is concerned.
If the number stays the same then the testing increase matches the virus increase.
What we unfortunately have here is the number of positives per test increasing (even if ever so slightly) which means the virus is increasing faster than our testing is increasing.

Basically we need a lot more testing to catch up with the virus and isolate those who are contagious.

 

[Speedster]

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I don't think there is anything to make of it other than we did more tests for each week onwards. You cannot make anything out of SA's results.

It seems that we might have had 2 waves.
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It doesn't seem that the 2nd one is growing any slower than the first.

Indeed, takeoff has begun. But at least lockdown bought our medical guys a month extra prep time. I have a friend who is the manager of a large private hospital and he's been working non-stop since lockdown started to rework many of the hospital protocols as well as to source the necessary PPE and other equipment.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

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Covid hyper walks into barber
Barber - what ya want fam ?
Hyper - just eff my lockdowns up.
Barber - gotcha covered

You're not comparing with their neighbours?

 

[tetrasect]

You're not comparing with their neighbours?

He's only interested in anti-lockdown propaganda.

 

[Jabulani22]

You're not comparing with their neighbours?

Wanna do Tokyo ?

 

[Jabulani22]

He's only interested in anti-lockdown propaganda.

Yes I'm anti lockdown , they don't work and this noburger virus is 90% hype

 

[borro]

 

[Jabulani22]

Seems like we are in fact all gonna die , thanks a lot covid.
Lol no ,not likely to happen.

 

[tetrasect]

Wow that is shocking... wonder what hospital that is...

 

[Temujin]

Gotta pump those numbers up