Is fibre still a thing?

[Deleted member 369928]

So a few years ago i applied for fiber with the usual promises of its coming etc.
I have since then lost all interest in it and recently wondered if this is still a thing.

I used to see cars and guys driving around installing fiber, trenching etc but now i don't see anyone anymore.
Did South Africa abandon this or is it something that is still only reserved for large complexes?

I fully understand the motivation behind targeting complex's. I mean if you have to listen to your neighbor fart in the tub one has to have at least one perk... such as fiber.

Oh and this thing i see. Where its only fiber from your house to an microwave. WTF is up with that. That is not true fiber. More like a marketing gimmick. Ye you got fiber... all the way to the end of the street and from there you just another LTE / microwave user.

 

[pinball wizard]

I used to see cars and guys driving around installing fiber, trenching etc but now i don't see anyone anymore.
Did South Africa abandon this or is it something that is still only reserved for large complexes?

What area/suburb?

 

[ArtyLoop]

Its a thing when <insert_name_of_company_here> decides to pull the finger out and actually deploy in your area. At this time, well for the last 18 months at least they've focused on the rich and affluent areas.

 

[envo]

Someone is out of touch with reality. Let me guess. OP is from Krugersdorp and rarely see's the outside world or bother reading anything on this website he/she visits to post this drivel?

 

[Deleted member 369928]

Centurion / Rooihuiskraal.
Ye they clearly have no interest in our area whatsoever.

Looks like PTA East however is pumping with fiber.

 

[ArtyLoop]

Someone is out of touch with reality. Let me guess. OP is from Krugersdorp and rarely see's the outside world or bother reading anything on this website he/she visits to post this drivel?

I also didn't find favour with his "targeting complexes" remark.
Complexes are notoriously difficult to target due to the body corporate problem. Trust me, I have firsthand experience with that. In the end I chose to move rather than wait for the old people to make up their minds and stop bitching about their paving.

 

[Deleted member 369928]

Someone is out of touch with reality. Let me guess. OP is from Krugersdorp and rarely see's the outside world or bother reading anything on this website he/she visits to post this drivel?

let me guess. Rich snob, values your life above all others... cheats on your wife regularly... beat your children?
Thought we passing judgement here.

 

[envo]

let me guess. Rich snob, values your life above all others... cheats on your wife regularly... beat your children?
Thought we passing judgement here.

Yup. And you Afrikaans AF, so that is why I say you're from Krugersdorp. Those guys never leave the area for anything and can't speak the england very good.

Wake up, click on the "News" button instead of going to pornhub for some ebony love, and read the plethora of articles about how fibre is being rolled out, will see a drop in pricing due to uptake etc.

You are living in a bubble my friend. Just because they finished trenching the fibre doesn't mean it "stopped being a thing"

 

[Deleted member 369928]

Yup. And you Afrikaans AF, so that is why I say you're from Krugersdorp. Those guys never leave the area for anything and can't speak the england very good.

Wake up, click on the "News" button instead of going to pornhub for some ebony love, and read the plethora of articles about how fibre is being rolled out, will see a drop in pricing due to uptake etc.

You are living in a bubble my friend. Just because they finished trenching the fibre doesn't mean it "stopped being a thing"

Triggered over complex remark.

 

[ngwe23]

I also didn't find favour with his "targeting complexes" remark.
Complexes are notoriously difficult to target due to the body corporate problem. Trust me, I have firsthand experience with that. In the end I chose to move rather than wait for the old people to make up their minds and stop bitching about their paving.

You fault for living in an old complex with old people. Targeting complexes make sense from a financial and logistical standpoint. Negotiating with a body corporate might be hardered than a simgle home owner, but once you get approval you get access to more customers.

 

[ArtyLoop]

You fault for living in an old complex with old people. Targeting complexes make sense from a financial and logistical standpoint. Negotiating with a body corporate might be hardered than a simgle home owner, but once you get approval you get access to more customers.

LOL, the complex is less than 5 years old. I am guessing you've never actually lived in one.
Where we live just about all the residents have LTE routers. We cannot get phone lines, we cannot get fibre, because MARITE and their gatgabbas on the HOA say no. In any case it was just temporary to live there, we ended up staying longer than we should have, and that's coming to an end soon. So no big deal hey. Just waiting for you to work the issue of race into my argument.. standing by!

 

[Deleted member 369928]

Just waiting for you to work the issue of race into my argument.. standing by!

I think you did that all by yourself.

 

[370z]

Centurion / Rooihuiskraal.
Ye they clearly have no interest in our area whatsoever.

Looks like PTA East however is pumping with fiber.

Hello. I'm in the same area and there is fibre rolling out on my street at the moment so keep your fingers crossed that its a mass roll out

 

[ArtyLoop]

I think you did that all by yourself.

Given the history of the respondent, its an expectation.
That area where you live, is considered somewhat rural, although it's not actually.

 

[Deleted member 369928]

Hello. I'm in the same area and there is fibre rolling out on my street at the moment so keep your fingers crossed that its a mass roll out

oooo lets hope.
the peeps right behind our house has fibre just on the other side.

but i stopped seeing any movement. we used to have openserve and a bunch of other guys up and down for months then nothing.

 

[ArtyLoop]

oooo lets hope.
the peeps right behind our house has fibre just on the other side.

but i stopped seeing any movement. we used to have openserve and a bunch of other guys up and down for months then nothing.

Step 1: Get onto the websites of whomever is providing in that area. Or ask the people you see that have FTTH who their SP is.
Step 2: Phone the company, tell them you need the product, can they please explain what is going on.
Step 3: Repeat Step 2, at least every 3 weeks, eventually something will happen.

 

[Cius]

I think these things go in cycles. They invested a lot and now are sitting back and trying to re-coup some of the investment. After that hopefully they will expand again. I also suspect they are finding out projections where overly optimistic (same thing happened when fibre rolled out in the USA). It costs a lot to lay out the network but then two or three companies target the same suburb and your return on investment is slow.

In the states what happened was big investors ran fibre all over the show and then when bankrupt. They sold their networks at massive discounts to the next round of operators who could then run at a profit as they got the infrastructure cheap. The same pattern may follow here. I also think they underestimated the economic side of things. Its been tough the last few years with many people losing work, not getting raises, etc. Hence I am guessing people buy more into entry level packages etc rather than the premium package if they buy at all.

Regardless, it will be interesting to see how it pans out. Oh, and on the complex side of things, they generally make for the best fibre investment as installing fibre is messy and once fibre is in a complex the trustees tend to not want to deal with the digging/paving again so the entire complex stays with the provider who first digs. Our complex went vumatel and there is zero appetite to even allow any other provider to come lay fibre due to how disruptive it was to get the vuma fibre in. Hence Vuma had it easy and now has customers with not much option in terms of competition. We can go back to ADSL or look to Rain or other mobile packages but nothing quiet compares to fibre right now. If I was a fibre provider I would gun for complexes and try be first in the door as that monopoly is then likely yours for a long time.

 

[DeSLAM]

Ive actually noticed that Telkom/OpenServe have upgraded some DSL customers to fibre at no cost, where this was possible - after stuffing up their client's ADSL lines for months, in areas where they recently installed fibre.

They pay the same for fibre as they paid for ADSL.

I believe the slower fibre products will become more affordable over time - as fibre is rolled out to all areas...so wait for that time, unless you want to fund the massive costs of fibre roll outs ISPs are trying to recover from a few now.

The same happened with DSL in the days of dial-up access.

 

[ngwe23]

LOL, the complex is less than 5 years old. I am guessing you've never actually lived in one.
Where we live just about all the residents have LTE routers. We cannot get phone lines, we cannot get fibre, because MARITE and their gatgabbas on the HOA say no. In any case it was just temporary to live there, we ended up staying longer than we should have, and that's coming to an end soon. So no big deal hey. Just waiting for you to work the issue of race into my argument.. standing by!

Rexal buddy. Don't be so sensitive. I was obviously pulling your leg. It seems you missed the gist of my post on why it makes sense to target complexes.

 

[Milano]

So a few years ago i applied for fiber with the usual promises of its coming etc.
I have since then lost all interest in it and recently wondered if this is still a thing.

I used to see cars and guys driving around installing fiber, trenching etc but now i don't see anyone anymore.
Did South Africa abandon this or is it something that is still only reserved for large complexes?

I fully understand the motivation behind targeting complex's. I mean if you have to listen to your neighbor fart in the tub one has to have at least one perk... such as fiber.

Oh and this thing i see. Where its only fiber from your house to an microwave. WTF is up with that. That is not true fiber. More like a marketing gimmick. Ye you got fiber... all the way to the end of the street and from there you just another LTE / microwave user.

Agree. Just data harvesting me says.