IS IT LEGAL?

b1gshow

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Hi everyone.

I am new to this forum, just wanted to know the following:

a couple of friends and I want to share an internet connection (normal adsl pppoe connection to Telkom) via wireless network. Is this Legal?
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Bern

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What Telkom doesn't know can't hurt you...

I think the terms state you can't resell, there is no way they can realistically do anything to you for clubbing together to be a client of theirs- that would just be stupid. Plus you are NATed, so they can't see what is happening on your LAN anyway. It is the same as a number of people sharing a telephone and ADSL in a house (roughly anyway), on the technicality as long as you don't cross government land (i.e. a road) you are fine.

What might be a good idea however is looking at some way to ensure equitable distribution of the available bandwidth (I assume you are getting an uncapped 4Mb line) so no one can hog all the bandwidth when you are all online. Perhaps dedicate some bandwidth for VOIP for example (If you have an FNB account you have a free 087number service to use). Try PFSense and use the bandwidth shaping tools.
 

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I believe a good rule of thumb in that if your signal is being utilized beyond the boundaries of your property it is illegal... So if you and your friend as in the same complex you should be fine.
 

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Until ICASA park their X-Files Landi in front of his house

Lol, X-files Landi, think they have been downgraded to a secondhand Tatas since slapping Vodacom/MTN/CellC in the face with the "your networks suck" announcement:eek:

They couldn't do that, they would have to arrest everyone with a wifi point then.
 

b1gshow

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thanks guys. I am using mikrotik systems so yes, everything is NATed. We are not in the same complex. And we are crossing public roads? So in short you all are saying we should just do it? It is not just for an internet connection, we want to start a WUG where we stay. It is going to be an 4mb uncapped line.
 

Bern

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thanks guys. I am using mikrotik systems so yes, everything is NATed. We are not in the same complex. And we are crossing public roads? So in short you all are saying we should just do it? It is not just for an internet connection, we want to start a WUG where we stay. It is going to be an 4mb uncapped line.

Do it, as long as you are not selling the internet access as a service you are fine, just sharing costs. I would love to see how they would:
a) Pick up on it
b) Prove it
c) Bother going to all the effort to then lose a paying customer(s)

If you are paranoid run a VPN behind the NAT, actually you should do that anyway over a WUG (don't let me sniff all your passwords - see firesheep to give you an idea)
 

TheLumpster

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also depend how you will be sharing it, i.e via wifi, then you'll have to stick to the normal home user frequencies (limited in range and interference) and you would have to do some NATing on the router end of things... but do it, im doing it in my complext to everyone that needs internet... :)
 

b1gshow

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thanks guys. I am running on the 5ghz spectrum, with a sector on a hill top and the users connecting to it with grids. There will be no profit gains, we just want to share the cost of one uncapped line, and want to play games, share resources etc. So icasa or the police or who ever won't come knocking on my door in a month??
 

Bern

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thanks guys. I am running on the 5ghz spectrum, with a sector on a hill top and the users connecting to it with grids. There will be no profit gains, we just want to share the cost of one uncapped line, and want to play games, share resources etc. So icasa or the police or who ever won't come knocking on my door in a month??

Again, how would they know to come knocking on your door? They would have to actually prove it, there are plenty of people doing the same thing already without any issues.
 

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If you use 2.4Ghz or 5.8Ghz then you're using a free spectrum and is allowed to "advertise" your wireless signal "across the street".
The actual problem lies with "reselling Internet bandwidth" over that same free signal. So you could easily get away with it as long as you don't advertise that you're selling internet services
 

b1gshow

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ok so the network is up and running, thanks for all the suggestions. Just having problems with the vpn side of things, other than that its running perfectly.
 
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