Is it possible to fight the climate crisis and eat some meat?

[BBSA]

I'm farting much less since I increased my meat consumption, so I do my bit for the environment.

 

[ShaunSA]

I'm farting much less since I increased my meat consumption, so I do my bit for the environment.

You need to fart even less so Greta the Great can fly some more.

 

[Ancalagon]

Allegedly. His claims are disputed.

I've heard similar things more than once from different people, different scientists.

Apparently the UN comparison that is often used doesn't compare vegetables to meat in an apples to apples comparison. Some of the carbon involved in getting vegetables to your table is ignored, while not being ignored for meat, resulting in meat looking worse.

If they do push a vegan diet like they are trying to, it will be a disaster for public health.

 

[Nicodeamus]

I've heard similar things more than once from different people, different scientists.

Apparently the UN comparison that is often used doesn't compare vegetables to meat in an apples to apples comparison. Some of the carbon involved in getting vegetables to your table is ignored, while not being ignored for meat, resulting in meat looking worse.

If they do push a vegan diet like they are trying to, it will be a disaster for public health.

There is lots of evidence tracing Veganism back to 7th day adventism. The US diary guidelines were created by a Vegan. The unintended consequences was that we put too much sugar in our diet.

We can blame them for all the heart problems and high levels of diabete. Gary Taubes documented this very well in his book Good Calories, bad Calories.

The issue is that you end up with self-righteous people in position of power, who simply do not know what they are talking about. The think however that their cause is righteous and noble. That is my big critique against a lot of the climate change advocates.

 

[SeRpEnT]

Recently released on Netflix:

The Game Changers Official Film Website | Documentary

Watch the Game Changers movie about plant-based eating, protein, and strength. Presented by James Cameron, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jackie Chan, Lewis Hamilton, Novak Djokovic and Chris Paul.

gamechangersmovie.com

Big budget pro-vegan documentary movie starring Arnie, James Cameron etc...
High ratings on IMDB but looks like a vegan propaganda movie trap. Not sure I will watch it.

 

[Eniigma]

Allegedly. His claims are disputed.

That's not saying much.
There are those that dispute that Zuma was is corrupt ******...

Point is, for any evidence, statement or theory, someone somewhere will be willing to dispute it.

 

[Techne]

Thanos was right

This is the problem.

Solution: Kentucky Fried Alarmists and Vegans.

Solves two problems in one go. Overpopulation and hot air production.

The atheists will love it (they have no choice anyway and they already eat it babies). PETA will love it for obvious reasons. Abortionists will love it, it will increase dietary choices and it is thus pro-choice. The moral relativists won't object since there is nothing really wrong with it and the utilitarian moralists will love it because the end justifies the means.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Allegedly. His claims are disputed.

All the elements are there to prove him correct. The problem with popular theory is just that, it's popular but not necessarily correct. Some examples:
Yellowstone park: River banks eroding. It simply took wolves to get the animals to move to not overgraze. Onece that happened, beavers came back. Marshlands formed. ....
Something done a long time: Instead of burning old veld, rather cut it short. By not getting rid of long grass, you loose the softer/sweeter grasses. Burning destroys the seeds in the ground.
Hard ground is something every gardener knows about.

His theories contain many of these elements and have turned out to be more plausible than most would like to acknowledge as it destroys some traditional wisdom. He has also achieved positive results where people tried it.

That said, putting a lot of sheep into an area scares the bejesus out of me. Sheep tend to rip grass, roots and all, out of the soil.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Actually a very good video on this. Sad ending though ...

 

[|tera|]

I didn't want to start a new thread, but I'd like to know if this could be possible?

We have ways of clearing carbon dioxide:

MIT engineers develop a new way to remove carbon dioxide from air

A system developed at MIT can efficiently capture the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide even from ambient air, and release it in pure, concentrated form. The carbon capture work was led by Sahag Voskian and T. Alan Hatton.

news.mit.edu

Now to do the rest. Is the following possible or not?:

Would it be possible for countries around the world to pull their efforts together to clear the oceans of plastic?

Would it be possible to get the ice back in Antarctica and Greenland by making water filters that filter out the warm water and cool it down rapidly and get pumped back in the ocean? Essentially treating it like a freezer?
The warm air can be pumped through piping systems to offer heat for homes and vegitation?

Manufacturing need to contain non-toxic chemicals and everyone migrates to electrical vehicles in time, possibly even partially funded by Governments.

I know this sounds idealistic, but my question remains. Would any of this be possible?

 

[access]

eat each other hmm braaains