Is it worth it getting an N95?

[Pooky]

Is it really all that it is made out to be? If you had to choose would you get the N95 or the HTC Touch?

 

[NoADSLyet]

Best there is currently!

 

[LancelotSA]

Pooky I was sceptical, but have had my hands on the N95 for just over two weeks and still surprised at all it can do! Just a little screen issue now... but otherwise everything is great.

 

[Pooky]

So is it better to get an N95 over an HTC touch? The Touch just looks so nice.

 

[Athlon64]

Apparently the N95 is a software disaster. Personally I wouldn't go for the Touch either though - its CPU is pretty slow. I'd have a look at the HTC TyTN II if I was you - looks like a great business phone.

 

[GTi]

Apparently the N95 is a software disaster. Personally I wouldn't got for the Touch either though - its CPU is pretty slow. I'd have a look at the HTC TyTN II if I was you - looks like a great business phone.

BS, Where you get your information from? I know lots for ppl with the N95 and non of them have any issues with the N95.
Is the best fone there is, I am waiting fot the N82. HTC Touch or HTC TyTN II is very nice but not much talk about both handsets.

 

[NoADSLyet]

Apparently the N95 is a software disaster. Personally I wouldn't got for the Touch either though - its CPU is pretty slow. I'd have a look at the HTC TyTN II if I was you - looks like a great business phone.

I presume you do not own any one of them, maybe not anything decent at all! Shame. Happy new year to you too!

BTW. Thanks for asking. I have 2 N95's with GPS software and many other nice functions like OK music excellent Video and camera. Not even to speak about the coffee maker! Also have the P800 and P910I all great but nothing like the N95.

Anyway based on your nic I see you are behind in technologically advances. We are on the C2D's already.

 

[Athlon64]

BS, Where you get your information from? I know lots for ppl with the N95 and non of them have any issues with the N95.
Is the best fone there is, I am waiting fot the N82. HTC Touch or HTC TyTN II is very nice but not much talk about both handsets.

Well...early firmware releases were apparently a general disaster. Things have improved with subsequent firmware releases, but some of my friends have N95's find that the phone does strange things particularly in Java apps.

I presume you do not own any one of them, maybe not anything decent at all! Shame. Happy new year to you too!

BTW. Thanks for asking. I have 2 N95's with GPS software and many other nice functions like OK music excellent Video and camera. Not even to speak about the coffee maker! Also have the P800 and P910I all great but nothing like the N95.

Anyway based on your nic I see you are behind in technologically advances. We are on the C2D's already.

lol...I always find it funny when people get upset when someone says something "nasty" about their latest expensive gadget. I'm really happy for you that you like your N95. I just thought Pooky might want to know some of the stuff which the average overly positive N95 user (such as yourself) won't mention. Just for the record...I have an SE K810i and I too am happy with my phone.

 

[GTi]

I knew u were a SE fanboy. They just can't stand competition,eish!!!!

 

[Athlon64]

I knew u were a SE fanboy. They just can't stand competition,eish!!!!

I'm not a fanboy of any brand. I buy the best phone (based on extensive research of my own - not necessarily the popular choice at the time because "popular" does not mean "best" - take a look at the Samsung U700...lol) which fits into my budget. This time round it was an SE. As I said above, I made my first post in this thread because:

I just thought Pooky might want to know some of the stuff which the average overly positive N95 user won't mention.

 

[GTi]

Now U700 is a piece of crap, all Samsung handsets are crap.

 

[Athlon64]

Now U700 is a piece of crap, all Samsung handsets are crap.

Very true. I am glad I don't have first hand experience of this though - I avoid Samsungs at all costs.

 

[LancelotSA]

I'm not a fanboy of any brand. I buy the best phone (based on extensive research of my own - not necessarily the popular choice at the time because "popular" does not mean "best" - take a look at the Samsung U700...lol) which fits into my budget. This time round it was an SE. As I said above, I made my first post in this thread because:

Well, not really sure I should get into this slinging match but what the hell may as well start 2008 on an argumentative note!! ha ha

I too find it funny when someone who cannot/will not own a certain phone feels the need to try and find fault with it even where none exists. As you appear to be doing. Everyone wants their phone to be the best! What makes your argument even weaker is that is appears to be all heresay as you start it with "apparently"... no first hand knowledge?

This is not meant as an insult Athlon but perhaps the most relevant comment you made above was "which fits into my budget". You are comparing a ferrari (R7000) to a Golf Gti (R3600 on http://www.cnw.co.za/prices.html).

I, as you, do major research before buying a phone and after pouring over infinite websites the N95 comes up trumps in virtually every instance! In fact looking back most tech websites rate it together with the iPhone as the two must have pieces of technology in 2007.

I know these are opinions of users on GSMArena.com, but can over 100 000 people all be lying...


Voting results
Nokia N95
Votes 114645
Design 8.7
Features 8.9
Performance 8.8

SE K810i
Votes 11615
Design 8.1
Features 8.1
Performance 8.1


The guys at GSM arena themselves tend to be fairly unbiased towards a particular brand and they do full testing before writing a review and yet they came to this conclusion...

"Till today I have never had the courage to name any phone like the best one on the market with clear conscience. But Nokia N95 does deserve this label. It has no adequate competitors on the current mobile market: it is extremely rich in functions, has a comfortable and detailed user interface with plenty of settings, and on the top of it, it is a relatively light and compact."

I will not post what they say about the K810i as the original poster was not asking about that phone but you can pop over and read yourself... particularly the conclusion paragraph!

Pooky get yourself over to GSMArena.com and read the reviews yourself for both phones. Also decide what you need in a phone before doing so (is "DVD quality" video essential, or a great camera, or a touch screen, or GPS more important to you). It is nice to hear "real people" on here's views but often they seem to be extremely biased...

 

[Pooky]

Thanks Lancelot, very informative. The only reason I'm leaning toward the Touch is that it looks very nive and has a touch screen. Take those two facts out of the equation and I would go for the N95. The thing I'm concerned about mostly considering the N95, are the looks and size and weight. Apparently it is quite bulky.

 

[LancelotSA]

No problem Pooky.

I personally do not have a problem with the size of the N95 and I came from a Samsung D900. But then again I usually do not put it in my pocket. I hold it, or it's in my car, or in my bag.

Once again from GSMArena...

HTC Touch
Dimensions 99.9 x 58 x 13.9 mm
Weight 112 g

N95
Dimensions 99 x 53 x 21 mm, 90 cc
Weight 120 g

Not much difference there, besides the thickness.

 

[Athlon64]

Well, not really sure I should get into this slinging match but what the hell may as well start 2008 on an argumentative note!! ha ha

I too find it funny when someone who cannot/will not own a certain phone feels the need to try and find fault with it even where none exists. As you appear to be doing.

lol...another one. I'm guessing you're also a N95 owner. This is the type of stuff one comes across on every computer forum.

What makes your argument even weaker is that is appears to be all heresay as you start it with "apparently"... no first hand knowledge?

I have seen the N95 do funky things in Java apps myself. I myself haven't seen it do any other weird things, but two of my friends with N95's told me that it sometimes does do weird things.

Everyone wants their phone to be the best!

Maybe you do. I know my phone isn't the best. In fact there are a few phones which are better than mine, but that's not the point. Poor Pooky here just wanted people's opinions about the N95. I gave mine. Also note that I didn't recommend a Sony Ericsson - I just recommended something which I thought might be more suitable for Pooky.

This is not meant as an insult Athlon but perhaps the most relevant comment you made above was "which fits into my budget". You are comparing a ferrari (R7000) to a Golf Gti (R3600 on http://www.cnw.co.za/prices.html).

Please remind me when this became a comparison between the N95 and the K810i. No where did I say that my phone is better than the N95. Mine may be better value for money, but it certainly isn't better.

I, as you, do major research before buying a phone and after pouring over infinite websites the N95 comes up trumps in virtually every instance! In fact looking back most tech websites rate it together with the iPhone as the two must have pieces of technology in 2007.

The N95 is a powerful phone. No doubt about it. All I said was that it has some software problems. Luckily Nokia is a decent brand so they'll fix the problems in future firmware releases (unlike our friends at Samsung), but it's anyone's guess exactly when this will happen.

I know these are opinions of users on GSMArena.com, but can over 100 000 people all be lying...


Voting results
Nokia N95
Votes 114645
Design 8.7
Features 8.9
Performance 8.8

SE K810i
Votes 11615
Design 8.1
Features 8.1
Performance 8.1

Yes, the N95 is a really popular phone. Again, I wasn't aware of any K810i and N95 comparison in this thread.

The guys at GSM arena themselves tend to be fairly unbiased towards a particular brand and they do full testing before writing a review and yet they came to this conclusion...

"Till today I have never had the courage to name any phone like the best one on the market with clear conscience. But Nokia N95 does deserve this label. It has no adequate competitors on the current mobile market: it is extremely rich in functions, has a comfortable and detailed user interface with plenty of settings, and on the top of it, it is a relatively light and compact."

I will not post what they say about the K810i as the original poster was not asking about that phone but you can pop over and read yourself... particularly the conclusion paragraph!

Again, I wasn't aware of any K810i and N95 comparison in this thread.

If it will make all you N95 users sleep better, I can always delete my post which I made above. I was really just trying to help Pooky out with his/her decision.

 

[LancelotSA]

Oh, Athlon you are so full of cr_p... you yourself made it a personal phone comparison!

With no first hand use of an N95 you came flying in stating that it is a "software disaster". You then went to to say you "buy the best phone" and state that you have the K810i... what conclusion would you draw from this?

How a comment like this helps someone decide whether a phone suits them or not I have no idea.

And as for your incredible deduction that I must be an N95 owner, wow did you maybe realise that from the post where I said I am? Again does this not make me more suited to providing Pooky with an opinion than someone who has seen a few things on Java applications on a friend's N95? Java does work on the N95 but remember there is also a stack of Symbian specific software out there that works a dream too!

You yourself shot your argument down by stating that Nokia will get there act together... already version 20 of the firmware is out and a lot more stable. Maybe you should advise your friend to do an upgrade....

 

[LancelotSA]

Please note that I said a "lot more stable"... this does not mean it was a "software disaster" to start with!

 

[Athlon64]

Oh, Athlon you are so full of cr_p... you yourself made it a personal phone comparison!

When? Where did I say that my phone was better than the N95? I only even mentioned my phone when NoADSLyet suggested that I have a 3310 or the like.

With no first hand use of an N95 you came flying in stating that it is a "software disaster".

You yourself shot your argument down by stating that Nokia will get there act together... already version 20 of the firmware is out and a lot more stable. Maybe you should advise your friend to do an upgrade....

Most phone users don't expect to have to update their phone's firmware 20 times before it becomes stable. Fine, they may have fixed a bunch of bugs, but if they're already at version 20, don't you think this indicates that there is quite a serious problem with the N95's software? Also, I didn't shoot my argument down because even if Nokia one day fix all or most of the software problems on the N95, I wouldn't want to wait for them to do so. I want something to work from the beginning. For example, I currently have a problem with the SE PC Suite. For some or other reason it doesn't want to sync with Outlook because of my Microsoft Exchange e-mail setup. I reported this to SE and they're looking into it, but that doesn't help me much because I want it to work now.

You then went to to say you "buy the best phone"

Please remind me when I said this.

and state that you have the K810i... what conclusion would you draw from this?

It's best not to draw conclusions from things which I apparently said. Please don't imply that I said my phone is the best.

How a comment like this helps someone decide whether a phone suits them or not I have no idea.

I think my first post was helpful. I made Pooky aware of possible problems with both first phone choices which he/she could research him/herself if he/she wanted to and directed him/her to a possibly more suitable phone.

And as for your incredible deduction that I must be an N95 owner, wow did you maybe realise that from the post where I said I am?

I didn't realise that you made that post above, so no.

Again does this not make me more suited to providing Pooky with an opinion than someone who has seen a few things on Java applications on a friend's N95?

Possibly. But often owners of a certain piece of hardware are so biased towards it that they'll look past any flaws just to reassure themselves that their latest R7000 investment was worth it. As you seem to be doing - playing down that problem you've got with your phone's display - possibly caused by a software bug: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=99223

 

[LancelotSA]

Someone drank too much last night or is unable to reread what they have said... I quote you and you ask where you said this! Maybe I need to make it simpler for you and include your text in my responses like you do! Quoting does not seem to work for you.

Microsoft (as an example) is constantly releasing patches and fixes... it's what software companies do! No software is released as a final version immediately. There are always fixes, patches, upgrades... it's the way technology works. It does not stand still. It needs to move forward. If some companies release inferior software and never update it, then so be it... i prefer one that moves forward. And for your information Nokia have not released 20 versions... the previous release was V12. Obviously they made enhancements behind the scenes.

And I did not pay R7000, I inherited the phone so that blows your argument of justifying my investment out the water. Never draw conclusions in an argument without facts (as you tried to tell me, even though in my case I was quoting you!). My opinion is based on the use of a free phone so if i didn't like it i could easily say so and go back to using my old phone... no loss to me.

Glad to see you have read all my posts... shows commitment (and thanks for posting it here, maybe i'll get some feedback now). As a result of having inherited it though I do not know what happened prior to me owning it hence me providing possibilities in my previous thread as to the screen issue and not jumping to conclusions. To advise someone to steer clear of the N95 based purely on the fact that I am having a screen issue as a result of unknown causes seems irrational. How would this help Pooky? My opinion was based on the knowns, not unknowns.

By the way you do the whole "apparently" thing again in this last reponse... "they'll look past any flaws". We have still not established exactly what these flaws are but you keep referring to them. The odd java application doing "funky things" may well be down to a corrupt application or the actual programme itself being dodge. Is this a reason to steer clear of the phone?