Is online piracy theft?

Is online piracy theft?

  • Yes

    Votes: 65 24.0%
  • No

    Votes: 167 61.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 39 14.4%

  • Total voters
    271

Dave

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It’s not an easy answer, fortunately I’m not affected by the law but I find I frequently have to stream old tv shows as they just aren’t offered by the current services and even though I pay for the BBC, SkyTV, Disney+, Netflix, AppleTV, Amazon Prime and Discovery+ none of those old shows are available but they are on some of the online streaming apps, so I pay for the online streaming and Real Debrid in order to watch them.

I’m not expecting stuff for free but if the networks can’t make what I want to watch available I’ve got to go outside their services to watch it.
 
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thestaggy

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I only feel bad when I pirate an indie game, otherwise Disney will be just fine when I go looking for Loki tonight.
 

Brian_G

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An example of where it should be allowed;

I've got x paid for tv service and have been watching y series, due to some mishap I end up missing an episode and there's no way to get it again, except via pirate-like sources.

Okay? Surely no judge will see that as wrong.
 

Rouxenator

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No, it is not. In fact I have purchased content only to share it. Had my need to share it not been there, the purchase would not take place.

I have also downloaded music and after enjoying it supported the artists on Bandcamp.
 

DreamKing

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death penalty for piracy. :p

Wonsan man executed for illegally selling CDs and USBs with S. Korean movies, dramas and music videos

In late April, North Korean authorities publicly executed a man living in Wonsan (Gangwon Province) who illegally sold CDs and USBs filled with South Korean movies, dramas, and music videos.

 

Barbarian Conan

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Usually - no.

If you use it to generate income - yes.

I have no good reasoning behind that opinion.
 

rambo919

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Fess up you sinners.... who had this this startup screen before SP3 disabled customization?

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copacetic

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Cybercrimes Act, and all the ethical debating aside, what I would absolutely love is the goddamn removal of regional restrictions, generally, as well as the segmentation of services (although the latter is of course a practical necessity for competition, and the former, the nature of how the world is currently set up).

It is just so damned convenient being able to use Netflix, Gamepass for PC and those sorts of services. There are arguments certainly to be made against music streaming services, as I do not believe artists typically make much if anything off of those platforms, but it's not like CD sales are booming nowadays in any event.

But the truth is that I am likely to obtain something with no benefit to the creator, if it is not affordable to me, which is on me, but not only on me. The system can surely be better, and I, like most people, don't respond well to any sort of punitive control.

Basically, just make the content I wish to engage with affordable in the context of my economy, is that too much to ask?
 

rambo919

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But the truth is that I am likely to obtain something with no benefit to the creator, if it is not affordable to me, which is on me, but not only on me. The system can surely be better, and I, like most people, don't respond well to any sort of punitive control.

Basically, just make the content I wish to engage with affordable in the context of my economy, is that too much to ask?
Affordable DRM free subscription services are the best alternative.... or open lending as if from a library.... however every company want's to device lock everything which leads to nothing getting off the ground. Everything currently is structured towards creating walled gardens for the economic elite..... the snobs want their privilege, they dislike the unwashed masses having in their minds equal luxuries..... and the psychopathic capitalist extremists want money that does not exist to give.

Content is unfortunately both a service and a commodity.... you cannot force it to only be one. You cannot sell it as if it is only one.... not without unintended consequences anyway.

And I will drop dead before I spend money on a locked in device, I will not willingly enslave myself like that.
 
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