Is SA a competitive outsource and offshore market for call centres?

UglyKidJoe

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Lets hope it is. Anything good for our economy is good for all of us, that's why Telkom must go
 

rwenzori

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No.

Why setup in SA when you can setup in India?

If you are talking into Europe, the time zones are much closer. Telkom offer incredibly good VOIP rates to callcentres calling overseas. Many countries have developed aversions to India - our "Indian" accents are much more understandable than real Indian ones to an English ear, and it is said that you can buy CDs of ( certainly ) British names, addresses, numbers for next to nothing on the streets in Indian cities ( data stolen from callcentres ).
 

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If you are talking into Europe, the time zones are much closer. Telkom offer incredibly good VOIP rates to callcentres calling overseas. Many countries have developed aversions to India - our "Indian" accents are much more understandable than real Indian ones to an English ear, and it is said that you can buy CDs of ( certainly ) British names, addresses, numbers for next to nothing on the streets in Indian cities ( data stolen from callcentres ).

Any idea what those rates are?
 

NameOfBeast

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it is said that you can buy CDs of ( certainly ) British names, addresses, numbers for next to nothing on the streets in Indian cities ( data stolen from callcentres ).

For what purpose? Direct marketing? Scamming?
 

rwenzori

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Any idea what those rates are?

I believe there are various options in terms of foreign breakout, and the rate varies by volume. Using Telkom to break out, between US$0.05c and US$0.07c per minute depending on destination network last time I "just happened to see" a Telkom ICC invoice.
 

NameOfBeast

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One of your biggest costs in telesales is the cost of data ( ie: names and numbers ).

I suppose the data they are buying includes some stuff on previous purchases (Mr Smith hates his Microsoft mouse....) so you are not just cold calling --- otherwise the London Phone book would be even cheaper :)
 

rwenzori

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I suppose the data they are buying includes some stuff on previous purchases (Mr Smith hates his Microsoft mouse....) so you are not just cold calling --- otherwise the London Phone book would be even cheaper :)

Well you've got me going now!

Firstly, and obviously the guy buying data off a street corner in India does not care about this, all legit telesales data for the UK has to be "washed" by the regulator Ofcom to remove numbers of people who have registered with them to "opt out" of telesales calls. The Ofcom maximum penalties are horrendous - thousands of pounds per offence. In SA there is no such thing ( other than the "self-regulating" of the Direct Marketing Association that you don't have to belong to ).

Secondly, calling anywhere from a phone book is fairly useless. Telesales products are aimed at definite target markets and you also need to know if a number worked recently - otherwise you waste vast amounts of money calling the wrong people.
 
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