Is SA ready for IPTV? Telkom Media thinks so!

[rpm]

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Telecoms/1730.html

 

[bwana]

Eta?

 

[Tux]

Eta?

Imminently

 

[sox63]

Seeing as though ADSL is already such a highly contested service, how are they going to ensure there is no service degradation from all that video content running up and down a SHARED service?

I certainly would not be happy at reduced speeds on my connection becuase sompeople that terminate on the same exchange as me are watching TV over their ADSL service?

Anyone else worried about that?

 

[Vice]

I'd like to see the prices on their ADSL2+

 

[Nod]

If they give service like they do now after the last rain storms, they can stop trying now. I've struggling to get Telkom to fix my noisy line for 2 weeks now, with no success. They can **** for all I care.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

Or even bundled services like triple play.

 

[Pilgrim]

Although IPTV is delivered via the internet, it is implemented on a private network so no capping is applicable

What private network? Are ISPs not also in this private network so no capping is applicable?

Only when a ISP offers traffic that needs to get out of SA should you need to pay.

I FUKING hate telscum. One moment they tell you that local traffic needs to be charged for at the same insane rate that international traffic is charged, then they turn around and say that their scummy little media company can use the network without having capping issues.

WHY THE FUK CAN I NOT USE MY ADSL TO CONNECT TO MY FRIEND A FEW BLOCKS AWAY AND SET UP A PRIVATE LAN?

I really cannot wait for telscum media to go live. How can they justify running a private network for their own company when ISPs are not allowed to offer local only content for (almost) free?

 

[ColinR]

I certainly would not be happy at reduced speeds on my connection becuase sompeople that terminate on the same exchange as me are watching TV over their ADSL service?

Won't the fact that Multicasting is being used alleviate that problem?

 

[BobbyMac]

Seeing as though ADSL is already such a highly contested service, how are they going to ensure there is no service degradation from all that video content running up and down a SHARED service?

I certainly would not be happy at reduced speeds on my connection becuase sompeople that terminate on the same exchange as me are watching TV over their ADSL service?

Anyone else worried about that?

If you actually bothered to RTFA, you may have noticed this:

IPTV will run over ADSL2+ or as Telkom refers to it next generation DSL technology, which is in the process of being rolled out by Telkom. This means that initially IPTV is limited to viewers who live near an upgraded exchange.

Next generation DSL extends the capability of basic ADSL by doubling the number of downstream bits. The data rates can be as high as 24 Mbps/s downstream and 1 Mbps upstream depending on the distance from the exchange to the customer’s home.

Next generation DSL is capable of doubling the frequency band of typical ADSL connections from 1,1 MHz to 2,2 MHz and allows port bonding.

This is where multiple ports are physically provisioned to the end user and the total bandwidth is equal to the sum of all provisioned ports. So if two lines capable of
24 Mbps were bonded, the end result would be a connection capable of 48 Mbps. True broadband!

Although IPTV is delivered via the internet, it is implemented on a private network so no capping is applicable. At the customers end a set top box is provided to decode the channels and feed the TV.

It will run on a special VPN where there is likely not to be a contention for allocation where a degradation of service will result.

 

[Grofft]

I'm too far from an exchange, even for 384k, so looks like I won't get that either.

I curse teklom to a fate of spontaneous combustion, burning their sh1tty products and "services" with them. They should record teklom's demise on DVD, and we can watch it happen on big LCD screens over and over again, at kids birthday parties, at funerals and at weddings.

 

[CirclingTheSun]

According to Rikus Matthyser, chief strategy and operations officer at Telkom Media, customers are saying that they do not get enough value from the jack on the wall.

Damn straight!

 

[Pilgrim]

If you actually bothered to RTFA, you may have noticed this:It will run on a special VPN where there is likely not to be a contention for allocation where a degradation of service will result.

No, they will pump their streams to your exchange where it will run over your ADSL to your set top box.

Now if that exchange you are connecting to is crowded everybody gets degraded speed. The exchange only has one link to the network backbone.

telscum media will not be digging trenches and laying their own fiber cables. They will piggyback on the telscum hardware.

Now the fun part: telscum media will be allowed to stream terrabytes of data to those exchanges, yet ISPs must pay telscum for local bandwidht. Cute hey?

 

[stoke]

I cannot wait to broadcast iptv wirelessly to my neighbors, so we can share the costs.

So if two lines capable of 24 Mbps were bonded, the end result would be a connection capable of 48 Mbps. True broadband!

True broadband .. is that an admission of guilt? ROFL!

 

[Tns]

We promise our customers a completely new experience

now why does this statement make me worried
?

 

[Pavlov]

Telkom's Triple Pay

This R100 they speak of? Is it in the same context as R199 for ADSL?

So the triple pay costs would be
Analogue Line Rental - R112
DSL Access Charge - R413
ISP Portion (Telkom Media) - R500 (unshaped - 4GB )
Bouquet Content - another R100 (???)

This could be considered QUAD Pay.
Perhaps a Hayward R100??

 

[eltherza]

This R100 they speak of? Is it in the same context as R199 for ADSL?

So the triple pay costs would be
Analogue Line Rental - R112
DSL Access Charge - R413
ISP Portion (Telkom Media) - R500 (unshaped - 4GB )
Bouquet Content - another R100 (???)

This could be considered QUAD Pay.
Perhaps a Hayward R100??

More like this:

Analogue Line Rental - R112
DSL Access Charge - R413
ISP Portion (Telkom Media) - R500 (unshaped - 4GB )
Bouquet Access - R100
5hrs of Content - R200
IPTV License - R50 per month

Once off "IPTV installation" fee, R400

That sounds more like telkom

 

[ldmelsa]

IPTV will run over ADSL2+ or as Telkom refers to it next generation DSL technology

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[ldmelsa]

now why does this statement make me worried
?

Because you are familiar with the SA telecoms landscape;

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1495

 

[BobbyMac]

No, they will pump their streams to your exchange where it will run over your ADSL to your set top box.

No, they will run over ADSL2 - a completely separate circuit.

Now if that exchange you are connecting to is crowded everybody gets degraded speed. The exchange only has one link to the network backbone.

That infrastructure is currently underutilised. In any event, that is part of the local loop bandwidth, not last mile.

telscum media will not be digging trenches and laying their own fiber cables. They will piggyback on the telscum hardware.

Telscum media is a subsidiary of Telkom - why install their own hardware? That doesn't make business sense, does it? In any event, Telkom are installing ADSL2 capable exchanges for Telkom Media anyway

Now the fun part: telscum media will be allowed to stream terrabytes of data to those exchanges, yet ISPs must pay telscum for local bandwidht. Cute hey?

It's called multicasting firstly and secondly, local bandwidth is tied up in the local loop. That will change when the LLU process is completed, as well as when Neotel pulls their finger from their ass and starts to compete.