Is suicide SUCH a bad thing

Rouxenator

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I am talking about people that have nothing - no job, no place to stay, no food to eat. There are many of them. They sure as hell do not have a life policy.
 

RedViking

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Suicide is a great option - especially in South Africa where we have so many people that are struggling to make a living. Instead of resorting to crime just kill yourself. If you are unhappy about the quality of your live then hey, maybe it's not worth living. So stop with the protests and riots and just commit suicide.

I honestly believe it is a wonderful solution.
You explain to your little girl why you found mommy hanging from the door with your tie tonight. If she left you a letter, make sure you also read it daily before bed time. I am sure she will get over it very quickly.
 

Rouxenator

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You folks are missing the point. I am talking about people that have nothing, think of people living on the streets, no family, no money, nothing. That is not a live worth living - so just end it.
 

Dan C

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I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card of some delay
So this is all I have to say
That suicide is painless

 

Splinter

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You folks are missing the point. I am talking about people that have nothing, think of people living on the streets, no family, no money, nothing. That is not a live worth living - so just end it.
If that was the attitude of early human beings, we would not be here today.
 

chicken247

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You folks are missing the point. I am talking about people that have nothing, think of people living on the streets, no family, no money, nothing. That is not a live worth living - so just end it.
Someday's i wish i was a hobo like that, no taxes, no worrying about corruption and my last paid redcent tax used like confetti at a marriage celebration where you just know the groom is gonna get ****ed , no social media mafia bs trying to spin ****,
just beach fishing in the winter and a begging bowl next to spar in summer. Maybe its the khoisan in me, i don't like this modern greed and gunning for the next buck. Am i crazy? am i sane? ,
and **** religion too.

I know there is something in the way...

 

Arthur

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If you're a materialist, there's no such thing as objective good or bad - you just arbitrarily and whimsically adopt any old views you wish and then rationalise them with your fave imitation of reason.

On the other hand...
 

Corelli

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There is soo much potential in life. So if you want to give up so early, sure its your deal. I had a friend that committed suicide. She was in her early 40s. She had the looks and body of Elodie Yung. Actually she was hotter, and she was very successful in business but she took a gun and blew her brains out, and no one knew why. She didn't have money problems or anything, just something was wrong, and I lost my closest friend.

So before you do it, no matter how bad it is, remember you have earned the chance to live by many that have died in wars to give you this chance. All your ancestors who survived and their blood flows in you till today, part of them is in you. So why commit suicide and screw all them over. You have to live on for them, and then for yourself, and sure it may be doom and gloom, but there is dawn after darkness, and even though you may not feel it today, there will always be a dawn with new things. And lastly think of all the positive things you may do for others, even though it may not be now, but down the line. Who knows you may end up a hero.

So don't off yourself, no matter how bad. Put your mind into changing the circumstances and see how it goes. There is a lot of beauty out there, and giving up now, means you may never discover your destiny.
 

chicken247

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If you're a materialist, there's no such thing as objective good or bad - you just arbitrarily and whimsically adopt any old views you wish and then rationalise them with your fave imitation of reason.

On the other hand...
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gimme a moment,

cough,

ok,


is this not universally true ?
 

maumau

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There is soo much potential in life. So if you want to give up so early, sure its your deal. I had a friend that committed suicide. She was in her early 40s. She had the looks and body of Elodie Yung. Actually she was hotter, and she was very successful in business but she took a gun and blew her brains out, and no one knew why. She didn't have money problems or anything, just something was wrong, and I lost my closest friend.

So before you do it, no matter how bad it is, remember you have earned the chance to live by many that have died in wars to give you this chance. All your ancestors who survived and their blood flows in you till today, part of them is in you. So why commit suicide and screw all them over. You have to live on for them, and then for yourself, and sure it may be doom and gloom, but there is dawn after darkness, and even though you may not feel it today, there will always be a dawn with new things. And lastly think of all the positive things you may do for others, even though it may not be now, but down the line. Who knows you may end up a hero.

So don't off yourself, no matter how bad. Put your mind into changing the circumstances and see how it goes. There is a lot of beauty out there, and giving up now, means you may never discover your destiny.
If you haven't suffered from depression you'll never understand.

Years ago some famous man (don't remember who) was interviewed on BBC. When trying to explain his depression he said it was infinitely worse than the pain he felt when his wife died.

Don't judge before walking in their shoes.
 

Rouxenator

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This made me think of futurama and bender suicide booths.

Might not be a bad idea?
It is excellent at enabling evolution in a time when we have put a stop to most of the means by which survival of the fittest would operate.

Imagine if instead of people resorting to crime to get by they just end it. What a perfect world that would be.
 

KT-B

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We need people to test medicines and drugs on - why not make that a viable option for those who no longer want to live. Pay them or their families for it. Or organ harvesting - rather than letting them commit suicide - let them donate their organs to saving others.

Scifi stories abound.
 

Rouxenator

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Good point, I'd much rather have a hobo die than a bunny, plus animals are poor subjects for testing human products.
Can you imagine the massive saving if all those living off the state were no longer here? What a paradise that would be.
 

KT-B

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Good point, I'd much rather have a hobo die than a bunny, plus animals are poor subjects for testing human products.
Can you imagine the massive saving if all those living off the state were no longer here? What a paradise that would be.

Well it would be their choice. And as long as it would be humane - why not. I really do not think animals should suffer to see if eyeliner burns eyes. Or eye drops work. Besides - animals cannot talk and tell you how they feel. So we have to guess at most of the side effects. And they recently learned that using pigs to calculate human time of death is not as accurate as they thought. They actually need humans. It would serve two purposes.
 

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I believe that thoughts of suicide is just a survival mechanism gone awry. You view suicide as an escape or favorable action and therefore it becomes a logical choice. You just have to allow your intellect to deal with this rather than your emotions. Use that part of your brain that reasons before action. I'm not trying to imply it is that simple or easy, it is just what I believe and what gets me through the same. This would work for most circumstances. But there may indeed be circumstances where even reason itself clearly favors the out. For those I can only suggest to look at every conceivable option, even try create more options and seize as much control as possible (be aggressive about it) - but I'd hate to be in that position myself :(
 

KT-B

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A friend told me that in her township, two teens were discovered hanging together this morning. Seems it was a pact suicide. The mother had told her daughter yesterday that she didn't like the boyfriend and didn't want her seeing him. The girl was 18 so it was more a discussion than an instruction. I do feel so sorry for the mother. It seems the boyfriend was making drugs and involved in that side of crime and the mother was just worried about her daughter. Oh the emotional torment she must be going through.
 
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