Is your brain really necessary?

Oopsie

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Single cell organisms have heterosexuality and can eat, find sexual partners and all this without brains.

A Math student passed his degree with a First class yet he only had 1.0 mm of brain matter above his cortex. He had full motor functionality with hardly no brain at all.

Now where would his "brain" be? In a "Google Cloud"? I would say YES. The little matter he has is enough for his bodily functions but the information is outside of the brain. In the Cloud where his consciousness is.

http://www.drjudithorloff.com/Free-Articles/Is-Your-Brain-Necessary.htm

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/n...rain-really-necessary-revisited/#.V__QxigrLNM
 
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HapticSimian

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Your first link's first paragraph ends with a likely typing error that makes the whole thing seem a lot more impressive than it actually is. A normal human brain's cerebral cortex is 2 - 4mm thick, not the 4.5cm mentioned in your article. Couple that with scanning through the first google hit not from a obvious woo peddler and the whole premise of your post kinda falls flat.

Neural cells, and collections of them, are amazingly adaptable. The simple fact that people who have lost parts of their brain tend to - more often than not - exhibit issues with those parts' associated functions simply lays waste to your proposal.

If you want some interesting, actually scientifically sound brain trivia, try this:

[video=youtube;T3Ftj5E90tY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Ftj5E90tY[/video]
 

Nirv

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Apart from the images in that case being stolen from other articles and being that of a man with an IQ of 75, I was wondering how you reconcile your idea of consciousness being in the cloud with evolution?

Where is the dividing line between things without brains and us? Do they just have a more elegant design, storing their info in the cloud without a silly fatty blob of neurons with no reason to evolve and being incredibly resource hungry as an antenna into the 5th dimension? Surely we'd be better off without our brains if we don't need them. Will you offer yours to science, since you don't need it?
 

Oopsie

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Yeah. #sciencemustfall. Science is a Western thing and we must do African Science that has proven "tornadoes are snakes from heaven" and witchdoctors can send lightning to strike you. It is proven you know.
 

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Plenty of people seem to get by just fine without using their brains but the more important question would be - what would the zombies eat!
 

saor

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I see the kids have found this thread.
In all fairness, you're the one who opened with the unsubstantiated conclusion that:

the information is outside of the brain. In the Cloud where his consciousness is.
You can't just make stuff up because it seems like the right answer or because there's no other answer available. Then I could just say that actually thoughts are stored in our skin, the atmosphere or in the minds of all people like a kind of Borg collective. The cases of people missing swathes of brain matter whilst maintaining normal cognitive functioning is extremely interesting, but is not evidence for extracorporeal memory.

Which is not to say there's no such thing as extracorporeal memories - it's just we need some reason to believe those things, rather than using those things as lazy explanations whenever there's a gap in our understanding.

Kinda o/t but I assume you've read Rupert Sheldrakes work on Morphic Resonance?
 

Bobbin

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@ Oopsie. I must say that you live in a completely different universe to the one I'm in. It is a wonder we can even communicate, though our signals are probably extremely faded from one another :)
 

Oopsie

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I was merely raising a topic that I don't quite understand here. Different parts of the brain control different parts of the body. The LHS controls the right side functions and visa versa. The eyes connect to some other part and so on.
If there is hardly any brain tissue, then how could the body function normally? Yet it can.

Furthermore, these are body functions that we need and our brains control them. Our thoughts and consciousness are not in the material brain as they are in quantum fields of information. Our consciousness is much the same as a quantum computer and can exist in a different plane other than ours.
Here is a video and if you have a different opinion to these great scientists then please feel free to tell them where they are wrong. Please add your credentials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgtz_G2Je88
 

etienne_marais

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Our thoughts and consciousness are not in the material brain as they are in quantum fields of information. Our consciousness is much the same as a quantum computer and can exist in a different plane other than ours.

To me this ties in with Jung's Collective Consciousness, I believe that it extends beyond species but also to groups within species, an individual has his own thoughts but also 'tunes into a frequency' of collective consciousness in a potentially non-rigid way.
 
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Willie Trombone

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Your first link's first paragraph ends with a likely typing error that makes the whole thing seem a lot more impressive than it actually is. A normal human brain's cerebral cortex is 2 - 4mm thick, not the 4.5cm mentioned in your article. Couple that with scanning through the first google hit not from a obvious woo peddler and the whole premise of your post kinda falls flat.

Neural cells, and collections of them, are amazingly adaptable. The simple fact that people who have lost parts of their brain tend to - more often than not - exhibit issues with those parts' associated functions simply lays waste to your proposal.

If you want some interesting, actually scientifically sound brain trivia, try this:

[video=youtube;T3Ftj5E90tY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Ftj5E90tY[/video]

You felt the need to reason with the OP :/
 
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