isdn misery

Joker

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Hey

I know this is an adsl forum, but there isnt exactly a myisdn.co.za , so im hoping someone might be able to help regardless.

About a week ago i got a 128k isdn line installed. Ever since then between 5pm - 12am my line goes to hell. I get 0-3kb/s if im lucky and a 500ms ping locally.
Any time other than that its 99% with 16kb/s and 80ms pings.

I phoned telkom about 100 times to no avail. Finally a telkom techie came to test my line, but he came at 2pm, so of course it was fine and all i got was an irrtated look and and im sure a nice callout fee.

Is it possible to scrap my isdn and get an adsl line now without haveing to pay the isdn installation costs?

If anyone has even the slightest clue what the problem could be please let me know.
 

Strobemeister

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Sounds like it could b a prob on your service providers side. Have you tried calling them? If thats all you're getting, then you're not getting what you pay them for. Additionally, i find the support from service providers are generally far better than telscum's. They could have an overloaded contention ratio, like maybe a gazillion:1
[:D]

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BTTB

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Telkom advertise ISDN2a a lot at the moment. I mean the rest of the world gave up ISDN as last years flavour of the month. This ISDN push by Telkom is merely disguising Telkom's own shortcomings. If the almost 600 000 people that have ISDN all converted to ADSL, Telkom would have a major headache on it's hands as the whole network would grind to halt as their infrastructure is inadequate to cope with the throughput of so many ADSL users all pushing the envelope. Look at ADSL during the daytime. Their is a definite slowdown during the day.

ISDN2a could and does potentially work for many internet users, but one wonders how many don't know better. I mean look a the call charges nowadays. SA is ranked highest in local call charges. Only the Infinitecall is worthwhile at R8.50. But not everyone only wants to connect at night. Also ISDN can be shared, but your bandwidth will limit you quickly if you have too many users.

The only benefit I had from ISDN was that i had an excellent ping on local gaming servers. But only if noone else was sharing at the time. Furthermore ISDN is outdated and Telkom know it. ADSL is far superior, but only affordable to a few "elite" residential customers and some business people who dont need Static IP's etc.

<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
 

Syzygy78

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I agree with everyone here... its your ISP! Try this... get a test account from Tiscali [Its free and lasts 2 weeks :D ]

I have an ISDN line at the moment and using a UUNET dial up. The ping times have been great, apart from the last week for local and intl. I think they are having problems as their ping times have gone through the roof... they are most likely using Satellite :/
 

MyLowBandwidth

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ISDN advertising is VERY misleading.

I know a non-techie lady who runs a small business from home but spends loads of time doing banking, e-mailing during the day. She's heard about all this ADSL / ISDN stuff and never really looked into, but one day picks up the phone and calls Telkom. Her ultimate objective was to reduce her call costs cos she was paying way in excess of R1000 just on ISP calls which she picks up on her bill. This STUPID MORON at Telkom sells her ISDN as a means to reduce her call costs, now she's connecting at 128 and paying way more than 2 ADSL lines. I dont really get it. How can you take advantage of ignorance like this?

Cape Town 128K 18% Tower 22 (Salt River) PPPoE, IPCop
 

BTTB

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Telkom thrives on consumer ignorance. It's how they got where they are in the first place. However we will slowly inform the people.

<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
 

Syzygy78

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and if Telkom had their way, they would want everyone to have bandwidth on demand enabled on the ISDN customers PC...
 

ajax

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Telkom thrives on consumer ignorance. It's how they got where they are in the first place.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Absolutely, check out the link "086 numbers, the truth" on the hellkom website under "information pages".
 

-toady-

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by BTTB</i>
<br />Telkom thrives on consumer ignorance. It's how they got where they are in the first place. However we will slowly inform the people.

<b><hr noshade size="1"></b><font size="2"><font color="red"><b>You can take Telkom out of the Post Office but you can't take the Post Office out of Telkom.</b></font id="red"></font id="size2">
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
[:eek:)]eh that bites but is soo true... i stand with the Truly Ignorant here [:D] Informing the people will help by? What Alternative is there? My old man speaks of Sentech but Ive got big problems with that idea... after all Sentech is going to be run basically by the same techhies that moved over from Telkom surely...? My server Mweb (shh) cannot/wont help with the ISDN problems... after all they got where they are how? Only by sleeping with the enemy dudes [:D]

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