- Oct 17, 2003
Cute tu quoque, and cop out without actually adding anything.Oh, here we go again. "Troll", "angry", "attack and belittle". The usual cop-outs
*hears the sound Imranpanji's brain exploding in the distance *
Btw - is this "confrontation" not just how you perceive it to be?
Trying to corner me into a black & white answer with a strawman attack is cute, but amateurish.Anyway, so you are not an expert on religion now. Yet you made pretty absolute statements previously about religion, faith and souls. Are these statements now, by your own admission, non-expert opinions then?
As per the tautologies you like, just because I can practice and understand binary logic, doesn't make me capable of making a processor right now. Given more education and experience I can.
One more tautology for you... Just because I am not Islamic, does not make me incapable of using my brain and arguing against you when you were at one point presenting as if you were genuinely seeking answers. At this point in time, I would argue that I am more capable than you are of arguing the point.
Oh look you're shifting the goalposts as soon as someone challenges you into understanding a simple concept. I did not see that coming! *gasp*I've parked this issue for the moment (the apostasy thing). But what has it got to do with my point that you avoided my comment on Islam being involved in most of todays conflicts? Looks like you avoiding it again...
Yeah I have/am and in all other threads you read like someone who is unable to stand their ground in a good argument. You deflect, shift goal posts, preach from the perceived higher moral ground and do everything to undermine an argument without actually adding something of value or substance to it.This is a thread about Islam. You're very focused on defending Islam, it seems. Strange, you keep on claiming you are not here on behalf of Islam, but your every post screams otherwise. Like I said before, I find your behavior somewhat deceitful.
Go read other threads; you will see I am pretty much the same when other religions are the topic of discussion.
More of that black/white argument crap. Go read what I have said and come to a conclusion of your own.So, you were going on before about ignoring the man made stuff and focusing on gods word. In other words, by your own admission, some of the scriptures are suspect. Would that be correct?
I have stated my methodology in plain text. How hard is that to grasp?Next, can you explain to me how you say you are not a religious expert, but then claim you can determine gods words versus mens in the scriptures. Has anyone else ever claimed this ability?
Must I repeat myself? (You seem to like that)
Seriously dude, almost every religious text is google-able these days. Go search for it yourself if this is so important to you.Seriously dude, can you just answer "yes" or "no". Does the scripture state the reason that god has not shown his face is because of concern for mans free will?
Or would reading a religious text actually offend your atheist nature in actually teaching you something about the things you argue against?
So in summation, you have nothing worthwhile to add to a discussion or introduction/explanation of Islam to those who are curious, but you most definitely have an opinion about something you know nothing about, seeing as you can't even research a simple thing like whether or not God showed his back to man or not.It's pretty obvious what my purpose is. The defence raised by you and others as to why this god is hiding in the sky was to preserve mans free will. If this is a man made concept, then it is no defence at all - and is also subject to your earlier dismissal of "man made" influences.
And "angry"? LOL. Nee wat, I just don't like nonsense being spouted as the truth.
WTF? What do you not understand about me being an atheist? "behest of my soul". Good golly.
But if you still don't get it, I am here because I don't like certain threads becoming pulpits for proselytizing without being challenged or debated.
(and that you returned like a dog to a supposedly buried bone to the same topic presumable parked for now)
You're merely here to waste the time of someone who has something you don't and it aggravates you. So cute
I am not Islamic, but I have an immense respect to the practitioners who see that it is a non violent religion, just like Christianity and other religions are supposed to be.
People are the evil one's in the equation, doesn't matter which way you try an argue it.
Just to tautologise that for you... Guns don't fire themselves, it's a person that pulls the trigger.