ISPA mum on developments in ADSL space

 
Of course ISPA is aware of the concerns of all of ISPA's members regarding Telkom's new ADSL product offerings. ISPA has an active Fair Competition working group that does nothing else except tackle this sort of issue. Right now (as you can probably imagine) that group has a lot on its plate.

However, because of the current Competition Commission proceedings, it is trickier than usual for ISPA to comment publicly on anything that relates to potential anti-competitive behaviour. It would be really foolish to risk prejudicing those proceedings just to rush out a press release...
 
A common "We are processing your concerns" statement would be nice.
Communication dammit!

What is it with people in the communications industry and communication?
 
Ant_Brooks said:
Of course ISPA is aware of the concerns of all of ISPA's members regarding Telkom's new ADSL product offerings. ISPA has an active Fair Competition working group that does nothing else except tackle this sort of issue. Right now (as you can probably imagine) that group has a lot on its plate.

However, because of the current Competition Commission proceedings, it is trickier than usual for ISPA to comment publicly on anything that relates to potential anti-competitive behaviour. It would be really foolish to risk prejudicing those proceedings just to rush out a press release...
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Hi Ant

Thanks for the feedback there, while I fully understand what you're saying, and I'm probably pushing the envelope here by asking this, would it be true to say that the ISPA is considering an additional submission to the Competition Commission - specifically covering the latest DoBroadband and ADSL bundled with Closer options? - also, does the Competition Commission allow for additional [new] complaints to be added to the existing submission, or is the ISPA required to submit an entirely new complaint each time the de facto fixed line monopoly finds a new way of doing something anti-competitive? :D
 
Hi Ant

Thanks for the feedback.

If there are any problems or issues with giving feedback it would have been great to know about it or be made aware of it. We asked for comment on various occasions since the end of March, but we did not receive any feedback or comment from ISPA. We then received some feedback from smaller ISPs about the concerns raised in the article, which meant that we had to investigate. We again did not receive any comment despite two attempts…I hope you understand why the article was done.

It may be useful in future to let us know if you can not comment or just send us an email stating the facts that you stated in this thread. This will calm concerns from ISPs and consumers that ISPA is looking at these issues and are addressing it formally (or informally for that matter)…

Regards,

RPM


Ant_Brooks said:
Of course ISPA is aware of the concerns of all of ISPA's members regarding Telkom's new ADSL product offerings. ISPA has an active Fair Competition working group that does nothing else except tackle this sort of issue. Right now (as you can probably imagine) that group has a lot on its plate.

However, because of the current Competition Commission proceedings, it is trickier than usual for ISPA to comment publicly on anything that relates to potential anti-competitive behaviour. It would be really foolish to risk prejudicing those proceedings just to rush out a press release...
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ic said:
I'm probably pushing the envelope here by asking this, would it be true to say that the ISPA is considering an additional submission to the Competition Commission - specifically covering the latest DoBroadband and ADSL bundled with Closer options? - also, does the Competition Commission allow for additional [new] complaints to be added to the existing submission, or is the ISPA required to submit an entirely new complaint each time the de facto fixed line monopoly finds a new way of doing something anti-competitive? :D
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It is probably safest for me to say that ISPA is exploring "all of the available options" at this stage. But yes, it is certainly feasible to add additional material/evidence to complaints before the Competition Commission. The Commission itself can also choose to combine different complaints if they think there is good reason to do so, and they have done so in the past.

Unfortunately, the Competition Commission process is rather slow. So while pursuing that option has some merits, it won't produce fast results.
 
rpm said:
It may be useful in future to let us know if you can not comment or just send us an email stating the facts that you stated in this thread.
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Hi rpm,

We were actually in a meeting discussing a response when you published the article. We were hoping to be able to provide some proper comment rather than just a "we can't comment" response but that's unfortunately not going to happen before next week. (Speaking for myself, I dislike "we can't comment" responses.)

As you can probably guess, we have our hands very full at the moment. Unfortunately, that sometimes means that responding to requests for press comment isn't top of the priority list. This is especially true when we have to be careful that we don't accidentally damage our existing efforts to ensure a fair and competitive environment by issuing a rushed statement.

PS: You do have my phone number, right? ;)
 
they're mum cos there is nothing to talk about that would put them in a favourable light.
 
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