Israel Folau to be sacked by Rugby Australia over homophobic social media posts

[Cius]

If you represent a bigger group and have a contract with them you have to keep to the rules of a contract despite free speech. For instance if I went and became a Disney star and then started splashing social media with risque stuff I should expect a termination of the contract with Disney as it has the potential to hurt their brand. Same thing here. He has the right to freedom of speech, but the organisation has its own standards it supports and if you become a member of that organisation they hold the right to cancel their contract with you if you go against their rules.

Still, I could argue it the other way too, losing your job for a religious view is fairly harsh. If the Rugby team's views are that strong and SJW views that strong I can envision a future where they could ban all Christians from the team just because of association with a view that is potentially against homosexuality. Where do you draw the line?

 

[Cray]

Eish, going through his twitter timeline, it's a stream of bible related memes/sayings.

 

[ponder]

I guess

Check out @SimonBorchardt’s Tweet:

 

[Cray]

He just repeated what the bible says, that is their religion and they are free to practise it. If you have an issue get the bible banned or sue god etc.

This is what he posted for reference...



If he posted a direct bible verse he might have a case..

 

[ponder]

This is what he posted for reference...

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If he posted a direct bible verse he might have a case..

He could always say it's a summary and back it up with verses...

 

[Fulcrum29]

This is what he posted for reference...

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If he posted a direct bible verse he might have a case..

But, but... he idolized WWE.

 

[Cray]

He could always say it's a summary and back it up with verses...

Maybe he should be a priest then....

 

[grok]

He just repeated what the bible says, that is their religion and they are free to practise it. If you have an issue get the bible banned or sue god etc.

Only homosexuality isn't in their 10 commandments, their condemnation of it is out of proportion to whether God thought it a main issue or not.. Therefore the bias is their own.

 

[porchrat]

If you represent a bigger group and have a contract with them you have to keep to the rules of a contract despite free speech. For instance if I went and became a Disney star and then started splashing social media with risque stuff I should expect a termination of the contract with Disney as it has the potential to hurt their brand. Same thing here. He has the right to freedom of speech, but the organisation has its own standards it supports and if you become a member of that organisation they hold the right to cancel their contract with you if you go against their rules.

Still, I could argue it the other way too, losing your job for a religious view is fairly harsh. If the Rugby team's views are that strong and SJW views that strong I can envision a future where they could ban all Christians from the team just because of association with a view that is potentially against homosexuality. Where do you draw the line?

Not just Christians, members of any of the Abrahamic religions.

 

[My_King]

This is what he posted for reference...

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If he posted a direct bible verse he might have a case..

Ah damn going to hell. Anyone here with me or are you saved?

Ah ****...drunks are going to be there too

EDIT : ****ing adulterers too. This is getting k@k for me real fast

 

[ponder]

Maybe he should be a priest then....

There have been priests that played international rugby before...

 

[Cray]

Ah damn going to hell. Anyone here with me or are you saved?

Ah ****...drunks are going to be there too

One comment on twitter from a pro player," who is Israel going to play rugby with in heaven if all the drunks are going to hell "....

 

[John Tempus]

Imagine we followed the same doctrine with our politicians and their racist outbursts.

We would be able to cleanup our government overnight.

 

[My_King]

One comment on twitter from a pro player, who is Israel going to play rugby with in heaven if all the drunks are going to hell ....

I was hoping the party was going to be good but I see everyone is going with me.

Might try veganism to try to be unique

 

[EADC]

One comment on twitter from a pro player, who is Israel going to play rugby with in heaven if all the drunks are going to hell ....

classic

 

[SAguy]

Only homosexuality isn't in their 10 commandments, their condemnation of it is out of proportion to whether God thought it a main issue or not.. Therefore the bias is their own.

I see religion being in trouble at some point. As far as I understand it every religion is entitled to their own beliefs (not sure if that is in our constitution, maybe someone knows?) - so I can understand the expectation that if you believe - I dunno (trying to think of a dumb example that won't offend anyone and get me banned) - that pizza is Satan's creation, then you shouldn't encroach on other people's belief that Pizza is good... but should I not be allowed to say that Pizza eaters are going to hell? I mean - I'm not stopping anyone or killing anyone for their belief, just stating it.

Ok, so let's say social media is not the place to state your religious beliefs. Does that account for all religious beliefs, or do you now have to figure out which one's are offensive - which is hard because people are affected by fokken everything.

Also, what about within a church building, can I say whatever I want when I'm at the pew? So I can say there how pizza eaters are going to hell - is that ok? What about if a visitor comes with a friend, and he's a pizza eater. Can he be offended?

I dunno hey. Religious beliefs aren't allowed to encroach on people's rights and free will - but it looks like one of these days people's rights and free will are going to encroach on people's religious beliefs.

Not defending Folau, mostly because he's a hair grabbing tool - just thinking out loud.

 

[Vrotappel]

Rather retarded from the ARU. This guy is a machine.

 

[ponder]

Only homosexuality isn't in their 10 commandments, their condemnation of it is out of proportion to whether God thought it a main issue or not.. Therefore the bias is their own.

You can't have a a commandment for everything.

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Leviticus 20:13

 

[SAguy]

You can't have a a commandment for everything.

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Leviticus 20:13

I interpret that as, a man shouldn't have sex with another man - so it's ok for a man to be gay, marry him, even adopt a child with him - but no sex. Unreasonable to expect there to be no sexual acts obviously, but still... what part of homosexuality is wrong.

 

[Cray]

You can't have a a commandment for everything.

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Leviticus 20:13

So he should be free from consequence to post any horrible thing that lives in the deepest darkest recess of the old testament?

"Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18)

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again."
Exodus 21: 7-8