Israel Folau to be sacked by Rugby Australia over homophobic social media posts

[Jabulani22]

It's already been pointed out that old Izzy cherry picks what the Bible says. So pointless

Never referred to his comments in this one , i was simply offering a rebuttal to your "convenient" post.

 

[EADC]

Never referred to his comments in this one , i was simply offering a rebuttal to your "convenient" post.

I was just pointing out how things get cherry picked out of convenience.

 

[Jabulani22]

I was just pointing out how things get cherry picked out of convenience.

how did he cherry pick ?
Quick edit - you also didnt point out anything in any other way besides picking my reference to wording perhaps meaning different things 2000 years apart.

 

[EADC]

how did he cherry pick ?

Post number 14

 

[Jabulani22]

Post number 14

Yeah i saw that earlier , the thing is that one may repent at any time and be saved according to the new testament , he may have simply gotten the tattoo's before believing.
It is allowed in Christianity but you would be expected to fully denounce the sin.

 

[EADC]

Yeah i saw that earlier , the thing is that one may repent at any time and be saved according to the new testament , he may have simply gotten the tattoo's before believing.
It is allowed in Christianity but you would be expected to fully denounce the sin.

Convenient.

 

[Jabulani22]

Convenient.

More like forgiveness.
one word responses dont really work though in real life though .

 

[EADC]

More like forgiveness.
one word responses dont really work though in real life though .

I have no desire to pretend to debate when all that will happen is some convenient escape out of it meanwhile others are condemned to hell?

Yeah no thanks.

 

[Jabulani22]

I have no desire to pretend to debate when all that will happen is some convenient escape out of it meanwhile others are condemned to hell?

Yeah no thanks.

Nobody is condemned as even the most serious of sins can be forgiven , you just have to accept and do certain things .
Posting old testament things which admittedly havent changed and showing little understanding of the subject through one word answers makes it seem like you are only here to Christian bash .

 

[EADC]

Nobody is condemned as even the most serious of sins can be forgiven , you just have to accept and do certain things .
Posting old testament things which admittedly havent changed and showing little understanding of the subject through one word answers makes it seem like you are only here to Christian bash .

No I am here to bash someone being a hypocrite and using his religion to bash others and be hateful.

Who do I need to ask for forgiveness? Me and Odin are tight I'm good.

 

[Jabulani22]

No I am here to bash someone being a hypocrite and using his religion to bash others and be hateful.

Who do I need to ask for forgiveness? Me and Odin are tight I'm good.

Yeah ,so its already been said that his sin does not make him a hypocrite if he has asked for forgiveness and as far as using his religion to "bash"others , he simply stated some tenants of his faith and others got offended.
Why would anyone even begin to take seriously the claims of someone being a homophobe unless it has been proven that the person is in fact in possesion of a phobia of homosexuals ?

 

[stefan9]

Well done rugby Australia. He even got a second chance after last year but couldn't stop his discrimination.

 

[EADC]

Yeah ,so its already been said that his sin does not make him a hypocrite if he has asked for forgiveness and as far as using his religion to "bash"others , he simply stated some tenants of his faith and others got offended.
Why would anyone even begin to take seriously the claims of someone being a homophobe unless it has been proven that the person is in fact in possesion of a phobia of homosexuals ?

I don't mind if he thinks I'm going to hell for being a drunk atheist that's my choice.

His choice is being a hateful person who chooses to be a bigot.

One of those on the list is not a choice.

 

[Jabulani22]

I don't mind if he thinks I'm going to hell for being a drunk atheist that's my choice.

His choice is being a hateful person who chooses to be a bigot.

One of those on the list is not a choice.

See i knew there was a reason that you are so invested , the athiest hiding behind others and claiming foul.
Unfortunately we do not know if he is hateful or bigoted , all we know is he is following his bible , the one that teaches love the sinner and hate the sin i assume.

 

[EADC]

See i knew there was a reason that you are so invested , the athiest hiding behind others and claiming foul.
Unfortunately we do not know if he is hateful or bigoted , all we know is he is following his bible , the one that teaches love the sinner and hate the sin i assume.

But it's proved he is cherry picking from said Bible and choosing hate and bigotry.


And round and round we go

 

[Jabulani22]

But it's proved he is cherry picking from said Bible and choosing hate and bigotry.


And round and round we go

yeah ok cherry picking is done and dusted unless you can prove he continued to sin after being saved.
You would have to show how he is a bigot and hateful too ,and no his comment isnt proof in and of itself since he didnt mention either , he just said hell awaits and listed groups.
I though athiests were kinda fact driven so when you bring proof i will concede.
BTW in maths 4+4=8 is not the proof that 4+4 does in fact = 8.

 

[JimmyRott]

Shame, people and their little feels again... Let him give his opinion, doesn't mean ANYONE agrees with him. Why should he now be fired?

I don't agree with him. I think he's a despicable human being, but I dont think he should be fired for being a shitty person.

 

[ponder]

Which part of the new testament overrides the old?

Whichever part suits them...

 

[EADC]

yeah ok cherry picking is done and dusted unless you can prove he continued to sin after being saved.
You would have to show how he is a bigot and hateful too ,and no his comment isnt proof in and of itself since he didnt mention either , he just said hell awaits and listed groups.
I though athiests were kinda fact driven so when you bring proof i will concede.
BTW in maths 4+4=8 is not the proof that 4+4 does in fact = 8.

Sorry what? I must provide proof? But you can speculate?

Yeah no thanks. I'm out.

 

[ponder]

Yeah i saw that earlier , the thing is that one may repent at any time and be saved according to the new testament , he may have simply gotten the tattoo's before believing.
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He makes enough mony to have the tats removed with laser.