It’s not just BEE, race-based affirmative action must go too

[konfab]

It's the only reason I even have some of my assets. And if what little I have was going to be taken instead of going to my children I'd instead choose to cash out, use the money to move somewhere else and let my tax money go to a different government. That applies regardless of the country I'm living in. Hell I'd do it just to give the middle finger to the country I'm leaving.

Furthermore inheritance tax already exists and the threshold is set to a level that allows ordinary people to leave something for their children, but requires the genuinely wealthy to pay tax. That the genuinely wealthy find ways to cheat and avoid paying means that no matter what system you put in place they'll find some way to make sure it doesn't get taxed. Which frankly I don't understand. If had hundreds of millions I wouldn't even want it all going to my children. But all a 100% tax on inheritance would do is take money from those who aren't wealthy.

Capital gains tax is a pile of $hit.
It is essentially a tax on inflation for those who have had the audacity to try and save some money.

 

[losta]

Knowing English gives access to a lot of the world's knowledge, knowledge that people in this country desperately need. You can either try and translate the entire anglophone world's knowledge content into 10 other languages, or you can teach people English

Wow! Really?

How come all those prosperous european and asian countries still have their home languages (many of them very very small) as medium in education?

 

[noxibox]

Giving preference to or denying someone based on their gender, race, ethnicity, etc. is a fundamental problem in my view although I do understand there is a need to somehow uplift the previously disadvantaged.

Employers make fairly arbitrary decisions all the time. I've been involved in many discussions involving trying to decide between two apparently equally qualified candidates. In the end it comes down to making a subjective choice. So to me giving preference to a woman, for example, when faced with two equally suitable candidates is not inherently unfair. What is a problem is a woman being the only option because you're trying to fill some quota and thus a better qualified man doesn't even get a chance to compete. For that kind of upliftment you rather need to use junior positions where the less qualified person gets an opportunity to prove themselves, but the more senior position goes to the better qualified individual. In that scenario everyone wins, even the employer.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Real estate

I wouldn't mind a very steep inheritance tax (99% ?)

and you?

You want to hand your hard earned assets to the looting state? LOL!!!!

 

[Deadmanza]

If have a feeling that there are still many people around in the thread, that seriously believe that living in a country where WHITE people are having swimming pools and blacks are living in shacks will be a sustainable model

wake up boys!!

Oh noes, they don't agree with my dog **** opinion.
They MuSt BE TeH RecIstS!

 

[Willie Trombone]

Wow! Really?

How come all those prosperous european and asian countries still have their home languages (many of them very very small) as medium in education?

Having a home language is not the same as NOT learning English. Just look at the successful people in these communities. Most of them learned English - sometimes at private schools only - but regardless, it opened up opportunities for them.

 

[losta]

It's the only reason I even have some of my assets. And if what little I have was going to be taken instead of going to my children I'd instead choose to cash out, use the money to move somewhere else and let my tax money go to a different government.

Fine.

That would drive down asset prices and make them more accessible for others

But all a 100% tax on inheritance would do is take money from those who aren't wealthy.

You are taking money from DEAD people.
Would you prefer expropriation while still alive?

 

[losta]

Having a home language is not the same as NOT learning English.

Exactly.
And that's why many prosperous countries have one ore more link languages on offer as a SIDE subject.

 

[SaiyanZ]

why not?

The Swiss, Belgians, Fins, Malaysians etc are actually doing this.

There are models to be found that make sure that the majority of pupils in SA will be schooled in native lingo

The SA government can't even get English textbooks to schools. Now you expect them to be able to do something much more complicated and expensive like rewriting the textbooks in a native language. This will not happen in a 100 years.

 

[Willie Trombone]

If have a feeling that there are still many people around in the thread, that seriously believe that living in a country where WHITE people are having swimming pools and blacks are living in shacks will be a sustainable model

wake up boys!!

I have a feeling there are people around the world that think women don't frequent forums lol.
No doubt there are people as you describe, but they are a minority. Remember:
1) Empty vessels make the most noise
2) Success and upliftment of the poor uplifts the entire country - just look at successful countries - they have way fewer poor.

What we know DOESN'T work is leave policy and decision making up to this current government. Seriously - how has it worked out thus far for the poor? This government is like someone trying to get to China. Instead of taking the suggestion to use an airline, they start digging... the deeper they get, they just keep reminding themselves that they have to dig deeper, it must be just around the corner... aint nobody gonna take that colonial aircraft... except the individuals shouting to the workers to dig - they take the colonial route every time and enjoy it.

 

[noxibox]

Wow! Really?

How come all those prosperous european and asian countries still have their home languages (many of them very very small) as medium in education?

You mean the Asian ones that pay handsomely for English speakers to come to their country and teach their citizens to speak English?

In general in Europe the people learn English. Sure they're taught primarily in what we refer to as their native language, but the key difference is that they typically have just one. So which local language are all black people going to agree to switch to?

Capital gains tax is a pile of $hit.
It is essentially a tax on inflation for those who have had the audacity to try and save some money.

Capital gains don't only come from inflation. And in strictly free market capitalism no-one would be trying to make money off land.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Exactly.
And that's why many prosperous countries have one ore more link languages on offer as a SIDE subject.

Not sure I'm following....
Are you suggesting they have indigenous languages on offer as a side subject, or English?
What I'm telling you as fact is those countries - the ones aligned to English as their preferred international language - that teach English in schools as one of two main language subjects are the successful ones - irrespective of the indigenous languages taught... why? Because the markets they operate in are predominantly English.

 

[losta]

The SA government can't even get English textbooks to schools. Now you expect them to be able to do something much more complicated and expensive like rewriting the textbooks in a native language. This will not happen in a 100 years.

Of course it could be done

The Lithuanians per example did it in 12 months time after 1994. Just 1.3 million people. A country at that time much poorer than SA.
Now much much richer, indeed...

 

[SaiyanZ]

Of course it could be done

The Lithuanians per example did it in 12 months time after 1994. Just 1.3 million people. A country at that time much poorer than SA.
Now much much richer, indeed...

Did they have toilets in their schools?

 

[losta]

Sure they're taught primarily in what we refer to as their native language, but the key difference is that they typically have just one.

The most prosperous country (9 million inhabitants, 21 % non-white) in the world has 4. Of which 3 are on offer in tertiary.

 

[Flanders]

If have a feeling that there are still many people around in the thread, that seriously believe that living in a country where WHITE people are having swimming pools and blacks are living in shacks will be a sustainable model

wake up boys!!

So it is a white inheritance tax you had in mind then. Whatashocker.

 

[BBSA]

If have a feeling that there are still many people around in the thread, that seriously believe that living in a country where WHITE people are having swimming pools and blacks are living in shacks will be a sustainable model

wake up boys!!

It is not a racial issue, it is mainly an education issue. Many educated black people are well off.

 

[Moosedrool]

This is because you can't program a computer in Zulu (or Afrikaans for that matter).
Knowing English gives access to a lot of the world's knowledge, knowledge that people in this country desperately need. You can either try and translate the entire anglophone world's knowledge content into 10 other languages, or you can teach people English

How about this, we get the government out of deciding what language people should speak and leave it up to the parents to choose what schools they send their kids to. If someone figures out how to do a science curriculum in Zulu and can sell it to parents, all the best to them?

Build Afrikaans syntax for high level languages.

Heelgetal Skikking[50], i, nommer;

 

[Deadmanza]

Fine.

That would drive down asset prices and make them more accessible for others



You are taking money from DEAD people.
Would you prefer expropriation while still alive?

No Idiot, you are taking money from living relatives that would have received those assets/money.
Logic Fail.

 

[Lupus]

Of course it could be done

The Lithuanians per example did it in 12 months time after 1994. Just 1.3 million people. A country at that time much poorer than SA.
Now much much richer, indeed...

Just 1.3 million people? That's not even a tenth of our population.