'It’s tough, you can never do anything right': Teachers fear older pupils

[schumi]

Overaged pupils are accused of bullying teachers and fellow pupils, and are said to be responsible for the high levels of violence and intimidation in the classroom.

Some teachers say they live in fear of being attacked by mature learners who are often aggressive, and they are forced to tread carefully in the classroom so as to not aggravate them.

The issue of overage learners was thrown into the spotlight in June when Joburg’s Forest High School pupil Daniel Bakwela, 16, was stabbed to death, allegedly by 20-year-old Mohamed Mwela, a Grade 11 pupil at the school. The two were said to be members of rival gangs.

During Mwela’s bail hearing in the Johannesburg Magistrate Court, magistrate Basimane Molwana slammed Gauteng Education’s admission policy for allowing a 20-year-old learner to still be in high school.

“It appears that there are adults studying at Forest High School. Teachers there are teaching pupils who are almost adults or are adults. The deceased himself was a 16-year-old and (in) Grade 8; meaning that he could have finished matric at the age of 21,” said Molwana.

He asked why an age limit had not be applied at the school.

“The department should facilitate alternative measures to encourage the accused to further his studies and if possible, to relocate to another school.”

In the Vaal, teachers who spoke to the Sunday Independent on condition of anonymity, said they were constantly provoked by learners.

Teachers at Maxeke Secondary and Beverly Hills High said violence in the schools was perpetuated by older learners who had been to initiation schools.

“It’s tough and you can never do anything right. When you shout at these older

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[Deadmanza]

****ing animals, they are too dumb to be in school.
Just throw them out.

 

[RaptorSA]

Those of us who lack the leftist brain disease and the incessant mollycoddling that comes with it predicted this outcome years ago.
Too late to turn back now, you've got a whole train of entitled little sh*ts who know they're untouchable heading your way.
Have fun, and invest in some hockey gear.

 

[The_Mowgs]

"matured" learners. Seems the label the morons as "matured" these days.

 

[Ponderer]

But ... but ... but what about their human rights.
All humans must have the right to do what they want.

FFS

 

[satanboy]

Once you leave your teens you should not be allowed in a normal school.

 

[Temujin]

20-year-old Grade 11
16-year-old Grade 8

 

[cheesus]

look what happens when ANC offisjals decide who the head is.

 

[Magnum]

We had this 1 guy in Matric that was 20. This clasical type Boksburg Breker bully. Got the 1 girl Pregnant in Matric and threw a Fit when he was told not no hold hand during the Record exam by the Principal, Both he and the girl got up and left.

FF some years later both he and the girl standing at the traffic lights begging.

Rocky, How is life turning out?

 

[ForceFate]

Once you leave your teens you should not be allowed in a normal school.

Wasn't this the case until about 15 or so years ago?

 

[ForceFate]

We had this 1 guy in Matric that was 20. This clasical type Boksburg Breker bully. Got the 1 girl Pregnant in Matric and threw a Fit when he was told not no hold hand during the Record exam by the Principal, Both he and the girl got up and left.

FF some years later both he and the girl standing at the traffic lights begging.

Rocky, How is life turning out?

They were made for each other

 

[Nicodeamus]

My brother had this problem recently, he works in a rural school in Limpopo. There was an 16 year old in grade 6 when you're suppose to be 12. The kid disturbed his class and tried to stop the others from learning. As a male teacher he often has to help out the women from being intimidated.

I don't see why those kids are still in the schools.

 

[Aghori]

My brother had this problem recently, he works in a rural school in Limpopo. There was an 16 year old in grade 6 when you're suppose to be 12. The kid disturbed his class and tried to stop the others from learning. As a male teacher he often has to help out the women from being intimidated.

I don't see why those kids are still in the schools.

Because ANC. They destroyed public schooling with their BS.

 

[ArtyLoop]

But ... but ... but what about their human rights.
All humans must have the right to do what they want.

FFS

Some have more rights than others..

 

[ForceFate]

My brother had this problem recently, he works in a rural school in Limpopo. There was an 16 year old in grade 6 when you're suppose to be 12. The kid disturbed his class and tried to stop the others from learning. As a male teacher he often has to help out the women from being intimidated.

I don't see why those kids are still in the schools.

We had a number of older pupils in primary school but they were relatively well behaved. Then we got to high school...damn! Luckily they never attacked a teacher during my time there but caused a number of disruptions and vandalism (graffiti and broken windows).

 

[ForceFate]

My brother had this problem recently, he works in a rural school in Limpopo. There was an 16 year old in grade 6 when you're suppose to be 12. The kid disturbed his class and tried to stop the others from learning. As a male teacher he often has to help out the women from being intimidated.

I don't see why those kids are still in the schools.

We had a number of older learners in primary school but they were relatively well behaved. Then we got to high school...damn! Luckily they never attacked a teacher during my time there but caused a number of disruptions and vandalism (graffiti and broken windows).

 

[Nicodeamus]

Because ANC. They destroyed public schooling with their BS.

The school that he teaches at was always bad. I am talking about Rural areas north of Polokwane.

 

[ponder]

Wasn't this the case until about 15 or so years ago?

Current situation is policy implemented by anc, I doubt they will reverse it and kick these pensioner learners out.

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

My 2 cents
This happens in more countries than we think. Global population growth coupled with the increasing rise of basic human rights such as schooling is putting an enormous strain on the schooling system world wide.

I think parents are majority to blame for a lack of discipline in our local schools for the following reasons:
1) Parents are lax to accept that their own kids may be problem children
2) SA's stance on riots and protests seem to be that violence is the answer when your needs aren't met. Children learn from their elders.
3) Parents are increasingly desperate to have their kids placed in a good school whilst limited good schools are available. This could lead to animosity towards teachers (and kids) when their own child isn't placed in the school of their choosing? -> may be reaching on this one but hey...
4) Ill discipline at home due to ill disciplined parents

 

[Zyk1]

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