It's just a Roman salute, says school in 'Nazi' matric photograph furore

[rietrot]

Being purposefully obtuse are we?
Bandying around random numbers from 3-6 million makes more sense to you?

Gotcha. Go back to school.

Why is 6 million so special? I don't give a shît if it was only 1 million. Even 500k would still be enough. It's all bad.

I just find the emotional connection to 6 million interesting. Why?

As far as I understand it is the upper range of the estimate. I've never really cared about the exact number to look into it. The Nazi were good at record keeping but I don't think they even kept an exact number.

 

[MirageF1]

What is exceedingly clear from many posts in this thread is that the word obtuse is not the sole reserve of the domain of Geometry.

Obtuse (adj.):

"More specifically, it suggests a refusal to see something apparent to others, or a willful ignorance or insensitivity to the real facts of a situation. "

 

[sand_man]

Roman salute? Yeah, right, pull the other one...

 

[dj2381]

How many people here are genuinely offended by this photo? We should have a poll

 

[rietrot]

What is exceedingly clear from many posts in this thread is that the word obtuse is not the sole reserve of the domain of Geometry.

Obtuse (adj.):

"More specifically, it suggests a refusal to see something apparent to others, or a willful ignorance or insensitivity to the real facts of a situation. "

Lol Do you want me to quote the definition of emotional.

Just answer a simple qeustion and enlighten someone ignorant like me.

What makes 6 million so special?

 

[access]

the nazi symbol is from elsewhere, why not the salute.

their ideologies are taken from elsewhere...


@MirageF1 why are the 6 million more important than the 80 million

 

[sand_man]

Why is 6 million so special? I don't give a shît if it was only 1 million. Even 500k would still be enough. It's all bad.

I just find the emotional connection to 6 million interesting. Why?

As far as I understand it is the upper range of the estimate. I've never really cared about the exact number to look into it. The Nazi were good at record keeping but I don't think they even kept an exact number.

WWII roughly 80m perished. That's on the Nazi's IMHO...

 

[rietrot]

WWII roughly 80m perished. That's on the Nazi's IMHO...

Not really that's ignorant. The Japanese, China, USA part of the war was basically separate. The Japanese and China were already at war even before the Germans invaded Poland.

Blaming everything on the Germans is an extreme western bias, pretending that Japan doesn't even exist.

 

[rambo919]

Noooo Japan is made up of exotic perverted little angels that sound funny...... they could never have raped, pillaged and murdered millions without the german devils putting them up to it...

 

[MirageF1]

The Nazi were good at record keeping but I don't think they even kept an exact number.

You clearly need to read more. A lot more.

The Nazis destroyed a good deal of their records when fleeing from the Russian onslaught in the East and even exhumed bodies of the murdered to try to burn/dispose of them because they knew the time of reckoning was near...

6 Million is a close enough number based on accurate records of the number of Jews in Europe/Occupied Territories at the outbreak of WW2, survivor testimony, historically researched fact and decades of research by eminent Historians, both Gentile and Jew alike.

But of course you and some others in this thread are specialists in this field, right?
They are all wrong, or produced Jewish paid/influenced research to purposefully inflate the horror of the atrocities perpetrated?

 

[rietrot]

You clearly need to read more. A lot more.

The Nazis destroyed a good deal of their records when fleeing from the Russian onslaught in the East and even exhumed bodies of the murdered to try to burn/dispose of them because they knew the time of reckoning was near...

Yes, I read quite a lot, but obviously I need to read more. I'm working on it.

Obviously you have read everything. So without being emotional. Just tell me. What makes 6 million so special?

 

[access]

Not really that's ignorant. The Japanese, China, USA part of the war was basically separate. The Japanese and China were already at war even before the Germans invaded Poland.

Blaming everything on the Germans is an extreme western bias, pretending that Japan doesn't even exist.

oh ****, ive been so indoctrinated by the jewish perspective of the war i didnt bother about the rest. i do recall something about this. thanks for the reminder.

 

[MirageF1]

Yes, I read quite a lot, but obviously I need to read more. I'm working on it.

Obviously you have read everything. So without being emotional. Just tell me. What makes 6 million so special?

6 Million is a close enough number based on accurate records of the number of Jews in Europe/Occupied Territories at the outbreak of WW2, survivor testimony, historically researched fact and decades of research by eminent Historians, both Gentile and Jew alike.

But of course you and some others in this thread are specialists in this field, right?
They are all wrong, or produced Jewish paid/influenced research to purposefully inflate the horror of the atrocities perpetrated?

 

[rietrot]

6 Million is a close enough number based on accurate records of the number of Jews in Europe/Occupied Territories at the outbreak of WW2, survivor testimony, historically researched fact and decades of research by eminent Historians, both Gentile and Jew alike.

But of course you and some others in this thread are specialists in this field, right?
They are all wrong, or produced Jewish paid/influenced research to purposefully inflate the horror of the atrocities perpetrated?

Okay. Now if you've read any other history ever. You would know the number are always estimates and in dispute.

Someone saying well maybe it wasn't 6 million but anywhere from between 3 million up to 6 million isn't a holocaust denier and doesn't decrease the level of horror. The horror stays the same.

 

[Nanfeishen]

What makes 6 million so special?

Post war politics.
The 6 mill is how many died during the war , what is often not included is the fact that those figures include actual fighting, bombing, disease etc etc , it is not exclusive to the camps, but the total figure.
The politics is cleverly played to favour a certain rhetoric, and it is easy to use in beating people around the head with , especially when any mention of nationalism is being encouraged anywhere in the world.

 

[buka001]

Why is 6 million so special? I don't give a shît if it was only 1 million. Even 500k would still be enough. It's all bad.

I just find the emotional connection to 6 million interesting. Why?

As far as I understand it is the upper range of the estimate. I've never really cared about the exact number to look into it. The Nazi were good at record keeping but I don't think they even kept an exact number.

The numbers are important, as several neo-Nazis have tried to diminish the significance of the holocaust.

If they reduce consensus on numbers, they will then go and reduce it even more until the argument becomes it never happened. The only deaths were through disease.

 

[buka001]

Post war politics.
The 6 mill is how many died during the war , what is often not included is the fact that those figures include actual fighting, bombing, disease etc etc , it is not exclusive to the camps, but the total figure.
The politics is cleverly played to favour a certain rhetoric, and it is easy to use in beating people around the head with , especially when any mention of nationalism is being encouraged anywhere in the world.

About 3.2 million died in the camps.
2.6 million in ghettos, firing squads, Eintzsatgruppen and so on.

 

[rietrot]

The numbers are important, as several neo-Nazis have tried to diminish the significance of the holocaust.

If they reduce consensus on numbers, they will then go and reduce it even more until the argument becomes it never happened. The only deaths were through disease.

Ja, no. Pandering to the neo-Nazis is stupid. Holocaust deniers don't need you to reject the 6 million number officially before they can deny the holocaust happened.

For that there's the wooden doors that doesn't seal properly and the space is to small to gass 6 million at once and something about not enough ovens. Or any other shît they can make up on the spot.

And turning the 6 million number into a sacred cow just feeds the crazy, because that's not how history works.

 

[Cray]

About 3.2 million died in the camps.
2.6 million in ghettos, firing squads, Eintzsatgruppen and so on.

Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl, quoting Eichmann first mentioned the 6 million figure...

“Eichmann … told me that, according to his information, some 6,000,000 Jews had perished until then -- 4,000,000 in extermination camps and the remaining 2,000,000 through shooting by the Operations Units and other causes, such as disease, etc.”

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holo.../6-million-where-is-the-figure-from-1.5319546

 

[MEIOT]

Are the number of dead jews murdered in WW2 relevant to the kids with the Third Reich salute and the current conversation?