It's just a Roman salute, says school in 'Nazi' matric photograph furore

[MirageF1]

Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl, quoting Eichmann first mentioned the 6 million figure...


https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holo.../6-million-where-is-the-figure-from-1.5319546

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[rietrot]

Are the number of dead jews murdered in WW2 relevant to the kids with the Third Reich salute and the current conversation?

It directly affects the weighting of their crimes. Only 5 million dead jews would make their Nazi salute not so bad.

 

[Ponderer]

Uhm - was any of the "saluting" kids asked what they meant by it?
The whole thing is the proverbial "storm in a teacup".

 

[hellfire]

Roman salute, Nazi salute, what's the difference?

No difference. Nazi salute was based on Roman salute

 

[MEIOT]

It directly affects the weighting of there crimes. Only 5 million dead jews would make their Nazi salute not so bad.

yeah - that makes sense on absolutely no level.

 

[rietrot]

yeah - that makes sense on absolutely no level.

Exactly.

 

[Mosgi]

I'm so confused, do so many people just skim read the headline?

Italian fascists started using the Roman salute in the 1920s. It was adopted by the Nazi party led by Adolf Hitler and became compulsory for all German public employees in July 1933.

It is a criminal offence to use the Roman salute in Germany, the Czech Republic and Austria. Section 86a of the German Penal Code provides for punishment of up to three years in prison for anyone using the salute.

 

[STS]

Why would Nazis see a problem with a Nazi salute?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1159392450831626240

 

[Sl8er]

Why would Nazis see a problem with a Nazi salute?

 

[Vrotappel]

I'm so confused, do so many people just skim read the headline?

Italian fascists started using the Roman salute in the 1920s. It was adopted by the Nazi party led by Adolf Hitler and became compulsory for all German public employees in July 1933.

It is a criminal offence to use the Roman salute in Germany, the Czech Republic and Austria. Section 86a of the German Penal Code provides for punishment of up to three years in prison for anyone using the salute.

and?

 

[STS]

Okay. Now if you've read any other history ever. You would know the number are always estimates and in dispute.

Someone saying well maybe it wasn't 6 million but anywhere from between 3 million up to 6 million isn't a holocaust denier and doesn't decrease the level of horror. The horror stays the same.

There is a difference between saying it may not have been 6 million due to stats and saying it may not be 6 million because they had a daycare, orchestra, swimming pool, etc.

The idea is to present Nazis as these loving monsters that not only DIDN'T exterminate them, they also took care of them. How DARE the jews be so ungrateful and conniving towards the furher

 

[rambo919]

There is a difference between saying it may not have been 6 million due to stats and saying it may not be 6 million because they had a daycare, orchestra, swimming pool, etc.

The idea is to present Nazis as these loving monsters that not only DIDN'T exterminate them, they also took care of them. How DARE the jews be so ungrateful and conniving towards the furher

Who the hell said that? Where?

 

[STS]

Who the hell said that? Where?

Holocaust denialism, some people start outright, others slowly work their way towards it

 

[rietrot]

Holocaust denialism, some people start outright, others slowly work their way towards it

Okay you go ahead and pander to the crazies. Be careful not to give them a food in the door.

 

[rambo919]

Holocaust denialism, some people start outright, others slowly work their way towards it

HD is a kneejerk nonsense term, attacking just this strawman you are propping up. No one other than actual nazi's actually claims such obvious rubbish.

 

[Cray]

HD is a kneejerk nonsense term, attacking just this strawman you are propping up. No one other than actual nazi's actually claims such obvious rubbish.

Holocaust denialism as it's accepted today is not outright denial of the holocaust occuring, it includes a range of typical statements about the holocaust and it's not only Nazi's who make them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

1) Nazi Germany's Final Solution was aimed only at deporting Jews from the Reich and did not include their extermination;
2) Nazi authorities did not use extermination camps and gas chambers for the genocidal mass murder of Jews;
3) or the actual number of Jews murdered is significantly lower than the accepted figure of 5 to 6 million, typically around a tenth of that figure.

David Irving is a holocaust denier who is not a Nazi (actually was a respected Historian) who engaged in all three...
Most notably he claimed that Hitler knew nothing about the final solution.

 

[grok]

Roman salute? Yeah, right, pull the other one...

Are you seriously suggesting Obahms

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1159392450831626240

Worse is this has been going on for absolutely ages..

 

[rambo919]

Holocaust denialism as it's accepted today is not outright denial of the holocaust occuring

Which is an example of true meanings being systematically perverted and weaponized, a common deliberate Marxist tactic. It means one thing but gets used in a different way eventually changing the perception of it's meaning and becoming automatically fired propaganda. The technical term is Semantic Warfare.

Strawmen, strawmen everywhere.

EDIT: To add to that there is a difference between denying that something happened and denying the accepted narrative of it, calling both the same thing (denialism) is a effort to deceive.

 

[John Tempus]

We have more factual evidence of the Armenian genocide and headcounts than what we have about the nazi death camps/genocide headcounts.

What happened to the Rwanda genocide ? Pol Pot was also not despised for a white. USA had lunch for a while with Idi Amin. The list of acceptable atrocities have no end but holyhell if a day doesn't go by that I hear something about the holocaust on the internet.

I am still waiting for the world to make the same amount of noise of the Armenian genocide. Oh wait I forgot its only a genocide when enough people decide to care about it or if there is some alternative motive behind acknowledging anything.