It's just a Roman salute, says school in 'Nazi' matric photograph furore

[CamiKaze]

Can't expect anything less from SW...

 

[buka001]

And the Americans were the first to drop a nuclear bomb on human civilization. Twice. I'm not sure what you point is.

Xarog asked why does this Holocaust deserve the attention it gets.

Its uniqueness in how it was originated, codified, legislated, planned, directed, instituted and carried out. How it was monitored and managed.

The scale and directness towards one group of people.

Unprecedented.

 

[buka001]

So again, is it the outcome, or is it the efficiency of the process that disturbs you? Contrary to your earlier accusations, it seems that you're the one in a quantum superposition between these two states...

Both

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Both

Ok, that doesn't make sense.

 

[Techne]

Xarog asked why does this Holocaust deserve the attention it gets.

Its uniqueness in how it was originated, codified, legislated, planned, directed, instituted and carried out. How it was monitored and managed.

The scale and directness towards one group of people.

Unprecedented.

You sick #$&@, diminishing all the other atrocities whereby mass murder was directed towards a specific group.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

You sick #$&@, diminishing all the other atrocities whereby mass murder was directed towards a specific group.

Ya no, I think I'll stick with my original instinct of rejecting any attempts by this kind of doublethinking to manipulate my moral compass, broken as it may be.

 

[buka001]

Ok, that doesn't make sense.

The number of people who died disturbs me.
The way in which the Nazis started from low level antisemtism, to curbing free speech, to their removal from the economy and society and then their entire extermination as a population distresses me.
The way in which they established an entire organisation with policies and procedures to enact this disturbs me.
The way in which the developed and invented an industrial organisation and systems to kill people as fast as possible for no other reason than them being Jewish.

Unprecedented.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

The number of people who died disturbs me.
The way in which the Nazis started from low level antisemtism, to curbing free speech, to their removal from the economy and society and then their entire extermination as a population distresses me.
The way in which they established an entire organisation with policies and procedures to enact this disturbs me.
The way in which the developed and invented an industrial organisation and systems to kill people as fast as possible for no other reason than them being Jewish.

Unprecedented.

Lol, Holodomor, the food to feed everyone was exported and so 6 million people died in the space of a single year. Not even the Nazis could kill that many Jews that quickly.

And that's like just a footnote on the list of Marxist atrocities perpetrated on the world.

But ya, the Nazis are the big scary ones.

 

[Techne]

The number of people who died disturbs me.
The way in which the Nazis started from low level antisemtism, to curbing free speech, to their removal from the economy and society and then their entire extermination as a population distresses me.
The way in which they established an entire organisation with policies and procedures to enact this disturbs me.
The way in which the developed and invented an industrial organisation and systems to kill people as fast as possible for no other reason than them being Jewish.

Unprecedented.

Yeah $$&@ you sicko for diminishing other unprecedented mass murders e.g. Holomodor, the Armenian genocide, various African genocides, Asian genocides etc..

 

[buka001]

You sick #$&@, diminishing all the other atrocities whereby mass murder was directed towards a specific group.

Are you drunk?

Quote me where I said any other genocide is in anyway less relevant?

Xarog asked why this holocaust gets so much attention, I demonstrated factual differences as to what separates this genocide from others. I am talking about the holocaust and what was unique to it.

Does it diminish the others? No. The principle is in the how and why and society looks to address those differences. You are welcome to strawman me.

Yet as the Rwanda Genocide and Srebrenica have shown us, society all too often reacts far too late to these events and sadly people are killed, yet again for no other reason than prejudice.

 

[Techne]

Are you drunk?

Quote me where I said any other genocide is in anyway less relevant?

Xarog asked why this holocaust gets so much attention, I demonstrated factual differences as to what separates this genocide from others. I am talking about the holocaust and what was unique to it.

Does it diminish the others? No. The principle is in the how and why and society looks to address those differences. You are welcome to strawman me.

Yet as the Rwanda Genocide and Srebrenica have shown us, society all too often reacts far too late to these events and sadly people are killed, yet again for no other reason than prejudice.

Not unprecedented enough. Clearly a sick mind you have.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Are you drunk?

Quote me where I said any other genocide is in anyway less relevant?

Xarog asked why this holocaust gets so much attention, I demonstrated factual differences as to what separates this genocide from others. I am talking about the holocaust and what was unique to it.

But you didn't do this. In fact you did the very opposite of this when you said that the concern was "both". Nobody can make sense of wtf you're on about, Buka.

Does it diminish the others? No. The principle is in the how and why and society looks to address those differences. You are welcome to strawman me.

Everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others. <- not a strawman

 

[buka001]

Lol, Holodomor, the food to feed everyone was exported and so 6 million people died in the space of a single year. Not even the Nazis could kill that many Jews that quickly.

And that's like just a footnote on the list of Marxist atrocities perpetrated on the world.

But ya, the Nazis are the big scary ones.

Yes the Holodomor was even more tragic. Stalin was an evil fxxk.

You asked for the difference. I have given it. Choose to ignore it.

Since you have agreed a number for the Holodomor, care to indicate the number you agree on for the Holocaust?

 

[buka001]

Not unprecedented enough. Clearly a sick mind you have.

The way in which they planned, organised, legislated and managed the genocide was unprecedented.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Yes the Holodomor was even more tragic. Stalin was an evil fxxk.

You asked for the difference. I have given it. Choose to ignore it.

You didn't explain why the difference mattered. And now you appear to be contradicting yourself because "the Holodomor was even more tragic". In other words, on the shitty events hierarchy, holodomor beats holocaust.

Since you have agreed a number for the Holodomor, care to indicate the number you agree on for the Holocaust?

Well, based on what was said in the thread today, nobody really wants to argue that it was more than 4 million that got snuffed out in the gas chambers. Seems like a safe number to stick a thumbsuck on.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

The way in which they planned, organised, legislated and managed the genocide was unprecedented.

Why is that any more morally relevant than the fact that it was all done by a vegetarian?

You don't explain this.

 

[Techne]

The way in which they planned, organised, legislated and managed the genocide was unprecedented.

Tell that to the mllions more dead Russians sicko.

 

[buka001]

Tell that to the mllions more dead Russians sicko.

Yes Mr Neo-Nazi propaganda pusher, I said the way in which the Nazis did it. You seem to want to add that i said the Russians never planned it at all. I didn;t say that. You are.

Read these pieces on what made the Holocaust unique -

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/what-makes-the-holocaust-unique
https://www.researchgate.net/public...akes_the_Holocaust_a_uniquely_unique_genocide
https://www.aish.com/ho/i/Uniqueness-of-the-Holocaust.html

Spend some time.

I am not, despite what you want to think, saying that any other genocide was less severe or not important. I am highlighting what made the Holocaust uniquely different to the others.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Yes Mr Neo-Nazi propaganda pusher, I said the way in which the Nazis did it. You seem to want to add that i said the Russians never planned it at all. I didn;t say that. You are.

Read these pieces on what made the Holocaust unique -

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/what-makes-the-holocaust-unique
https://www.researchgate.net/public...akes_the_Holocaust_a_uniquely_unique_genocide
https://www.aish.com/ho/i/Uniqueness-of-the-Holocaust.html

Spend some time.

I am not, despite what you want to think, saying that any other genocide was less severe or not important. I am highlighting what made the Holocaust uniquely different to the others.

But that difference is merely aesthetic, it is of no moral consequence.

 

[buka001]

Why is that any more morally relevant than the fact that it was all done by a vegetarian?

You don't explain this.

You want me to make the moral distinction.

To me there is none.

You asked why people place more emphasis on the holocaust and I showed the unique elements that attract the attention.

It is crude and sad.

You would be shocked that in my opinion, the genocide that irks me the most is the Rwanda Genocide. The way it just ahppened, from seemingly nothing, is by far the scariest aspect.

The Nazis led up to theirs.

Stalin imprisoned lots of people and carried out all his programs - it led up to the holodomor.

The Rwanada one, was almost overnight from a country with no Genocide, to full out Genocide and 800 000 people died in an unbelievable short space and time. Horrific.