It's quiet...too quiet

[arf9999]

The forum seems quiet the last couple days. Does this mean that everyone is getting good speed?

MW128, Tower 50 (Northpark Plaza), Signal:12%,S-N-L: 5, BER: 40%

 

[MaD]

Maybe its so slow they cant reach the forum to say so...

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
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[playkiller no.2]

Maybe they in bed with flu and are too sick to be at the computer.

 

[arf9999]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by MaD</i>
<br />Maybe its so slow they cant reach the forum to say so...

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za</font id="size1"></font id="navy">
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That's why you never cancel your dial up!

MW128, Tower 50 (Northpark Plaza), Signal:12%,S-N-L: 5, BER: 40%

 

[noswal]

Everyones around a noone's place watching his downloaded dvds []

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No more catenna, now its a custenna

 

[gripen]

Its a well known trend. When speeds pick up people get back to their stuff and the forum dies down. We have seen it all before. Its textbook.

 

[guest2013-1]

getting *** speeds, just too lazy to bitch and moan... its weekend... getting drunk and all that

Help save the bandwidth. Decent download speeds for TheRodent! Stop downloading now!!!

 

[Ditch]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by arf9999</i>
<br />Does this mean that everyone is getting good speed?
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No! Had pretty lousy speeds most of today, from 2KB/s to 4.5KB/s max. Just didn't feel like complaining, as pretty much everything worth saying has already been said, and I also thought that there are enough other complaints on the forum to 'cover' mine too.

Not doing too badly right now though: 7.5 KB/s, about the best I've seen in weeks, yet at this time on a Saturday night one should not expect congestion.

 

[TheRoDent]

Same ole lousy speeds over here as well. I really think everyone's just too tired.


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[wizix]

Yeah tired of bitching...

Rodent when are you meeting with Sentech?

[MalPark Durban - Tower 36] [256kbs]
Telkom ADSL Speed Test Meter
Your line speed is approximately 46.1 Kbps or 5.7 kBytes/sec

 

[kickass72za]

You can only bitch so much........ most married men realise that and then give up!!!!

Yes we are married to SENTECH..... a 24 month marriage.......IOW Divorce will be coming shortly

LMAO

 

[arf9999]

I'm beginning to be sure that <i>one</i> of the problems definitely lies with packet loss and latency. Rodent mentioned the backing off syndrome with TCP, and I can see the difference with single http or ftp threads vs multi-thread or multi-file downloads and P2P. With single threads I rarely get more than 6kB/s, but with multiple threads I can get &gt;13kB/s ALL THE TIME, and sometimes as much as 15kB/s for prolonged periods (30 mins). I tested this yesterday and overnight, and my speed never dropped below 13kBps for 15 hours. The difference between http and P2P is clearly visible on my graphs.

So I CAN almost max out the 128kbps bandwidth, but if I run a speed test, I get this:
"Your line speed is approximately 52.1 Kbps or 6.4 kBytes/sec"

If the packet loss and latency issues are resolved (by end August?), I think that most users will be happier. Not satisfied, but happier. There are other issues, like customer relations, international bandwidth, billing, crappy service, etc...that need to be addressed.




MW128, Tower 50 (Northpark Plaza), Signal:12%,S-N-L: 5, BER: 40%

 

[Scarface]

I had 3 calls from the Helpdesk on Friday - asking if I have seen an improvement in speeds???

My answer was obviously NO...what I have noticed is that downloading Debian from IS Ftp was jumping anywhere from 0.7K to 22K at times when using multiple threads.

I was told that the problem with speeds was that every session (ie multiple bowser sessions) allocated the full package bandwidth to each session - so if you had 4 downloads, 4 x 128K bandwidth was available...sound like a fishing story to me. Aparently, that's been stopped now - and speeds should be better now.

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"We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't."
Frank A. Clark

 

[antowan]

Hi all,

If things don't change and the talking's done, then there is only one way to go, now isn't there? Sentech, Telkom and the government for that matter is skating on thin ice as far as the SOuth African techies are concerned. I know techies in general as quite timid people who don't go off fighting and burning and screaming at the bat of an eyelid, but when they have talked, talked, talked, begged, begged, begged and moaned and moaned and still nothing happens? Now there is a recipy for some serious revolution!

Cheers
Antowan

### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###

 

[embittered]

Unfortunately nothings changed - 35.52 Kbps - Telkom must be laughing. Went to the office to work on a sunday (!) on the 128Kbps Diginet rather than endure the wrist slashing speed offered by Sentech 'broadband'[V]

Termination time is near.

 

[Ditch]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Scarface</i>
<br />I was told that the problem with speeds was that every session (ie multiple bowser sessions) allocated the full package bandwidth to each session - so if you had 4 downloads, 4 x 128K bandwidth was available...sound like a fishing story to me. Aparently, that's been stopped now - and speeds should be better now.
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Speeds are not better, and I strongly doubt that this was anything but yet another lie (perhaps their 'official' version of the reason for the slight increase in speeds after the open proxy was discovered). In the 'early days' of Sentech, when the speeds were good, I could get my full 128Kbits/s at *any time*, all the time, it never dropped below that once for the first few weeks that I was on. However adding multiple download threads did not give me more total BW, the BW would just be divided, and my total throughput would still be max 128Kbits/s. Not once did I ever see more than 128Kbits/s throughput, no matter how many TCP connections I had going. (That's something worth keeping in mind ... in the beginning, we all had good speeds.)

This ongoing habit of Sentech to lie to their customers annoys me above all else. It obviously comes right down from top management, and is a reflection of the attitude of management to their customers, that they are *still* instructing the helpdesk to lie. It seems the entire top structure genuinely believe that telling lies to customers is the best way to try appease customers who complain about speed problems (or trying to avoid legal liability above all else?)

 

[Ditch]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by antowan</i>
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If things don't change and the talking's done, then there is only one way to go, now isn't there? Sentech, Telkom and the government for that matter is skating on thin ice as far as the SOuth African techies are concerned. I know techies in general as quite timid people who don't go off fighting and burning and screaming at the bat of an eyelid, but when they have talked, talked, talked, begged, begged, begged and moaned and moaned and still nothing happens? Now there is a recipy for some serious revolution!
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See http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/columnists/gettingreal/ashford040730.asp?S=Internet&A=INT&O=FRGN---

Isn't there some sort of coordinated 'lobby group' that us members of industry (that are currently paying the price for the lack of telecomms reform) can join? I believe that if enough people and companies got together and (continually) protested and lobbed the government for change that it could make a difference. Government needs to 'feel the pressure' to reform quickly, currently there's no pressure, and it's up to industry (and the public) to put that pressure on the government. This includes more media focus on their inability to implement reform, and more 'public education' of what *is* possible when government does it's job properly (e.g. South Korea) and on why telecomms reform is so important. The Carte Blanche Telkom thing is good, but by itself it won't bring about change, and the focus needs to be more on government and less on Telkom, as it is up to government to implement change, not Telkom. And one SNO is not enough, we need real competition.

BTW, I seem to remember at election time the government promised that they would do something about this issue by August. It's August now.

 

[BTTB]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">BTW, I seem to remember at election time the government promised that they would do something about this issue by August. It's August now.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

LOL, did they say which August.

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[bb_matt]

Seen nothing above 8k per second for the whole of July, average about 4k a second (128k package) - the trend is continuing today - got 6k at one point for about 1 minute and then down to 4k again.

I tend to lurk here these days. Not much to say really [xx(]

 

[Kai]

yep. i just think people are tired of bitching and moaning and not being heard... i occasionaly still phone the helldesk and bitch a bit there... but i'm waiting for end of the month to see what happens.

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