Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[Geoff.D]

https://soc.washington.edu/research/projects-and-grants/echo-chambers-science-impact-academic-recommender-systems-disseminatio

Link broken ---- can you help find the new link?

 

[JangoFett]

Link broken ---- can you help find the new link?

Echo Chambers in Science? The Impact of Academic Recommender Systems on the Dissemination of Scientific Knowledge | Department of Sociology | University of Washington

Projects and Grants. Digitization of the scientific literauture has occurred in two phases: first, scientific papers began to be digitized, and second, comprehensive search engines such as Google Scholar, JSTOR and Web of Science emerged that allow scholars to quickly search for and locate...

soc.washington.edu

Add an 'n' to the end.

 

[buka001]

Error of logic. As per your post

You're welcome.

Oh apologies I read it as two separate sentences, got you.

 

[Howdy]

You've been posting troll like remarks repeatedly. How does "Troll" advance the conversation?

How does deliberate attempts at winning an argument, even if it's by being dishonest and petty, help? People that know better, yet stoop to those levels are doing it.

sheep dip

 

[Howdy]

Link broken ---- can you help find the new link?

My bad, copy/paste error, sorry.

Echo Chambers in Science? The Impact of Academic Recommender Systems on the Dissemination of Scientific Knowledge | Department of Sociology | University of Washington

Projects and Grants. Digitization of the scientific literauture has occurred in two phases: first, scientific papers began to be digitized, and second, comprehensive search engines such as Google Scholar, JSTOR and Web of Science emerged that allow scholars to quickly search for and locate...

soc.washington.edu

 

[Geoff.D]

Error of logic. As per your post

You're welcome.

Never mind, I will clarify it for him. He has a reputation for not being able to comprehend many things.

 

[pouroverguy]

How does deliberate attempts at winning an argument, even if it's by being dishonest and petty, help? People that know better, yet stoop to those levels are doing it.

sheep dip

Yes, it's clear that pettiness has been coming from only one side of this argument. Clearly.

 

[JangoFett]

Yes, it's clear that pettiness has been coming from only one side of this argument. Clearly.

Do you think you're fooling anyone?

 

[Geoff.D]

Not much has changed...

Ja they just use a different form of "Radon"

 

[Geoff.D]

Echo Chambers in Science? The Impact of Academic Recommender Systems on the Dissemination of Scientific Knowledge | Department of Sociology | University of Washington

Projects and Grants. Digitization of the scientific literauture has occurred in two phases: first, scientific papers began to be digitized, and second, comprehensive search engines such as Google Scholar, JSTOR and Web of Science emerged that allow scholars to quickly search for and locate...

soc.washington.edu

Add an 'n' to the end.

Eish. I just clicked on it. --- hate these damn tablet devices! Off to my laptop rather.

 

[buka001]

Ja they just use a different form of "Radon"

Sorry, meant Radium.

It was used as a valid treatment for everything. Until too many people died from it.

 

[Geoff.D]

Sorry, meant Radium.

It was used as a valid treatment for everything. Until too many people died from it.

So what about Radon? Not also used by the medical profession?

In a radon treatment, radioactive radon is applied to people for medicinal purposes. Patients are exposed to a high concentration of radon for a short period to alleviate pain for several months and so to reduce their use of painkillers for a certain period.

So was mercury!

 

[Geoff.D]

My bad, copy/paste error, sorry.

Echo Chambers in Science? The Impact of Academic Recommender Systems on the Dissemination of Scientific Knowledge | Department of Sociology | University of Washington

Projects and Grants. Digitization of the scientific literauture has occurred in two phases: first, scientific papers began to be digitized, and second, comprehensive search engines such as Google Scholar, JSTOR and Web of Science emerged that allow scholars to quickly search for and locate...

soc.washington.edu

Fascinating read! Need to spend some more time on it, but this sentence sticks out.

A critical policy related implication is that online recommender systems can bias search results and thus the visibility of specific scientific findings. This is relevant to the next generation of scientists using these search environments and those who evaluate scientists and their work.

And the comments of many other people as well.

 

[JohnStarr]

Yes actually.

Medical research? Or something else.

 

[buka001]

Fascinating read! Need to spend some more time on it, but this sentence sticks out.


And the comments of many other people as well.

And like ivmeta.com

 

[Swa]

Don't mention Ivermectin; it'll upset the vaccine rollout - BizNews.com

Ivermectin is seen as a repeat of hydroxychloroquine and not to be taken seriously. Belief in it, worthy only of derision.

www.biznews.com

A good article. Merck only makes 5% of the world's supply. They gifted the IVM patent when they could not make any money from it. For comparison Merck at the time could only make a few cents from each IVM dose. It was a completely unprofitable drug for them. The Covid drugs however go for thousands of Dollars per treatment. IVM is the perfect drug you would want to patent for the pandemic.

To summarise, if IVM was officially endorsed for treating Covid all the emergency use authorisation for vaccines and other drugs will fall away as no unapproved drug can be used on emergency or compassionate grounds outside of limited trials while an adequate approved treatment exists. There's a lot of self interest here. It could take years for any drug or vaccine to be approved.

MSM, Facebook, Twitter, Google, governments and big pharma have a LOT to answer to and it's up to us as the public to demand answers. There are at least 3 million deaths that could have been prevented and deserve recognition and people could have lived normal lives.

 

[Geoff.D]

To summarise, if IVM was officially endorsed for treating Covid all the emergency use authorisation for vaccines and other drugs will fall away as no unapproved drug can be used on emergency or compassionate grounds outside of limited trials while an adequate approved treatment exists.

And that is the crux of all of this! The Covid pandemic is seen as a >$ 500 billion windfall for big pharma, which they will protect with every dirty trick they can scratch out. It is why many times in the past, (actually every time there is a major worldwide health crisis involving the developed world, developing world health crises never count) the same conclusions are reached. And that is that private medical enterprises will NEVER be trustworthy in situations like this and that ALL medical developments must be taken out of any operation with a profit motive.

 

[Geoff.D]

There are at least 3 million deaths that could have been prevented and deserve recognition and people could have lived normal lives.

This

 

[Swa]

Statin users 50% less likely to die from severe COVID-19

New research suggests that people who use statins before hospitalization for COVID-19 were approximately 50% less likely to develop severe COVID-19 and die.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

 

[JangoFett]

And that is the crux of all of this!

I think the crux of the issue is that if people listened to the scietism dogmatists, then the effectiveness of IVM would never have been uncovered. To hell with all of them.