Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

Cosmik Debris

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Only 5% of people have been vaccinated and a lot of high risk individuals have refused it so can't say it's due to vaccines alone. We know there are vaccinated people in hospital and dead. There are also those doctors with a 100% success rate with IVM. Is that due to the IVM or did they just not get sick enough? Now how many people taking IVM did he not have to see? Were those he saw taking it on prescription or as an animal product?

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Dr Marc Mendelson says that, in the last few weeks, he has not seen a vaccinated person develop Covid pneumonia, and needing intubation or ICU in his high care ward at Groote Schuur Hospital.

I can tell you for sure that during the last few weeks… [in] my Covid high care ward, I have not seen a single person there who has been vaccinated. Sadly, the same cannot be said for patients who had been taking Ivermectin.


 

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I am choosing to post my thoughts here because I feel like I will be mocked/judged elsewhere.

I am getting really nervous /anxious.

Reading the feedback on some of the other threads isn't great for my mental health.

I have read in other threads about loved ones passing away, even though they took Ivermectin.

Granted in one of those posts: The patient was vaccinated, contracted covid & was on Ivermectin. She passed away after vaccination.

The cause of death sounds like side effects of the vaccine & she happened to test positive for covid at the time.

Anyway, I am in a tricky situation.

I think that vaccines play an important role.

I unfortunately have an autoimmune /inflammatory condition & the white blood cells that usually indicate worm/allergy are very high in my body.

I have a diagnosis of lupus but it isn't a full diagnosis. My body is producing lupus antibodies but it isn't showing the pattern of lupus.

I was placed on Chloroquine last year to calm my immune system down.

With regards to the vaccine:

Two Doctors have reluctantly told me to not be vaccinated.

Many of the issues surrounding the vaccine is due to the body going into a hyper inflammation mode, clotting or the immune system turning against the individual.

I don't know how I feel about vaccination anymore.

So I hope that Ivermectin works. I also understand that it has shown to reduce mortality by 60‰..It isn't perfect but is probably the only option I have.

I feel more comfortable being offered an Antiviral when that finally comes out.

So I am hoping there are other methods of dealing with covid.

Hearing about young people & healthy individuals dying from Delta is frightening me.

I really want to see my family but I am too afraid to expose myself to anything.

People documenting side effects of the vaccine are being censored on Tiktok, facebook etc.

These are legitimate cases and not "fake news".

Social media influences are also being paid to promote vaccination.

www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2021/08/04/thousand-dollar-cash-payments-and-tiktok-influencer-army-are-part-of-the-campaign-to-get-people-vaccinated/amp/

I understand why this is done but I feel overwhelmed, over stimulated & pushed to make a difficult decision for myself.

Here is a link of a lady documenting her side effects after receiving the Pfizer vaccine:

You can download the app or watch the videos from your pc. She has documented her journey every step of the way.

Dr's don't even believe that it is linked to the vaccine, she now has neurological issues & is placed on heart medication.

She struggled to convince them it wasn't "anxiety". She was hospitalised & is now being treated regularly. They are still figuring out what happened to her.

Vaccination is a personal decision but there needs to be more transparency & we also need the terms of these contracts to be exposed.

Mybb has been helpful to me during my anxiety but I need a break.

This is my last post in a while.

To anybody making a snarky comments after this, as this place has become predictable.

I wish you well & your loved ones well. I respect your decision, so don't judge me for mine.



@Geoff.D please make an effort to watch that lady's tiktok videos. It is worth the effort & you will understand why after watching it.

Btw she is getting a lot of negative comments & being called an "anti vaxxer" etc.

Take care
Your body, your choice.

We have a very good friend. She herself can't take the jab due to other health issues. I myself had to travel when the jab wasn't available, used IVM after an incident.

It's a personal choice, ignore the peanut gallery. Rather consult with your doctor.

Do what's good for you! Don't do nothing.

No judgement. I trust you'll stay well and things work out fine.
 
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Dr Marc Mendelson says that, in the last few weeks, he has not seen a vaccinated person develop Covid pneumonia, and needing intubation or ICU in his high care ward at Groote Schuur Hospital.

I can tell you for sure that during the last few weeks… [in] my Covid high care ward, I have not seen a single person there who has been vaccinated. Sadly, the same cannot be said for patients who had been taking Ivermectin.


Yes. Third time this is posted. So because he hasn't seen one means there are none?
 

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Any comments?

Dr Marc Mendelson says that, in the last few weeks, he has not seen a vaccinated person develop Covid pneumonia, and needing intubation or ICU in his high care ward at Groote Schuur Hospital.

I can tell you for sure that during the last few weeks… [in] my Covid high care ward, I have not seen a single person there who has been vaccinated. Sadly, the same cannot be said for patients who had been taking Ivermectin.


You also posted it in post 2503 and it was commented on.
 

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Yes. Third time this is posted. So because he hasn't seen one means there are none?

Do you know how big Groote Schuur Hospital is? And if he hasn't seen one, I doubt others have. Any evidence from your side regarding your claim?
 

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Do you know how big Groote Schuur Hospital is? And if he hasn't seen one, I doubt others have. Any evidence from your side regarding your claim?

Prof Mendelson never said that it was impossible to get severe covid if you've gotten vaccinated. The article was just to encourage people to get vaccinated.
 

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Do you know how big Groote Schuur Hospital is? And if he hasn't seen one, I doubt others have. Any evidence from your side regarding your claim?
Did you see the Pfizer trial with thousands of participants? No statistically significant difference in death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated. So how does that gel with the doctor's claim?
 

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Did you see the Pfizer trial with thousands of participants? No statistically significant difference in death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated. So how does that gel with the doctor's claim?

Please share this data.
 

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Do you know how big Groote Schuur Hospital is? And if he hasn't seen one, I doubt others have. Any evidence from your side regarding your claim?
Perhaps you should actually start reading the responses you seek, not parroting yourself.
Remember, we're also talking about something unknown, doing our best. So how does it pan out abroad? Let's look at the UK, considering a close friend's dad passed away on Tuesday despite his 2nd jab.

Read that article. Already we read they're contemplating a third jab ...
Care to tell me why he does not count? Or rather ... just don't. Real people, real lives. This crap is affecting all of us. So please!
 
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Did you see the Pfizer trial with thousands of participants? No statistically significant difference in death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated. So how does that gel with the doctor's claim?

OK then. You know far better than a doctor in a huge hospital on the front lines of the Covid fight. When do you get the Nobel prize for medicine?
 

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Perhaps you should actually start reading the responses you seek, not parroting yourself.

Care to tell me why he does not count? Or rather ... just don't. Real people, real lives. This crap is affecting all of us. So please!

Can you stick to the topic and not make the topic me?
 
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