Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[Swa]

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Did you read this part of my post?

Yes and you're still deflecting. J&J data doesn't back up his position so we can assume he's either wrong or just anecdotally lucky. But again >>> vaccine thread this way

Substantiate? That would have made world news. 5 Dead from the vaccine in one place.

I did not say 5 died from the vaccine. Learn to read.

Why SA's drug regulator cannot recommend ivermectin to treat Covid-19 | News24

Sahpra says there is no evidence that ivermectin increases viral clearance or reduces hospital admissions, disease complications or mortality.

www.news24.com

Well clearly they're lying if they say no evidence.

Yeah. Unfortunately the worlds' gotten stupider since last year! its unbelievable

Dunning Kruger says hi.

 

[Swa]

But you said that he said that he had 100% success rate - that is a perfect solution (unless 100% doesn't mean what it used to mean.....I mean, I wouldn't be surprised in this day and age of wokeness and/or Trumpism....)

We don't know the context. If it's 4000 patients that contracted Covid and not 4000 patients in hospital then on average only 4-40 were ever at risk.

 

[Geoff.D]

Her are two articles you can read.

Modern Medicine

www.modernmedia.co.za

First one is on page 3 A KZN Doctor's Observations and Treatment of Covid-19 Reveal a Missing Element
The second you just need to click on the link at the end of the article to go to page 28 Elucidating the Pathogenesis and Rx of Covid Reveals a Missing Element

Now, this was very very useful and interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Nothing about his views on IVM published that you know of other than that video?

 

[Swa]

@Geoff.D Do you know the treatment regimens against which IVM is compared? I assume non-RCT studies will be the standard treatments but surely most of the RCT studies as well?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

If you and the other vaccine zealots had bothered to watch the video or understand what was said you would see that he DOESN'T really use Ivermectin He uses other drugs which I posted in the thread. He comments on it once really and mentions that it should taken early, for most of the video though he mentions other drugs.

But you lot are so quick to jump on anything that isn't vaccines that you shoot down treatment and doctors you know nothing about.

Early? What's early? You have the virus for a week before you know you have it. So, when should you start taking Ivermectin? Over to you.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Seems he's known around the world now, so maybe don't shout your mouth off next time entirely from a point of ignorance.

Known on YouTube, not in research labs. Why not?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Busy watching the video now, will see if he has added or taken away anything from his protocols.

Note I'm not saying he has the perfect solution for treating Covid, but at the same time he shouldn't be dismissed just because he isn't renown worldwide (though that seems to have changed).

I mean Cosmik Debris said he was a charlatan without knowing the first thing about the doctor. That is not intelligent, logical or sensible in anyway as Cosmik seems to like to portray himself - that is a close-minded and fanatical mindset.

He is a charlatan. And he can sue me for saying that. Why won't he? And why hasn't he provided his "research" to the WHO if he's so good? But medically unqualified YouTube fanatics will worship the ground he walks on. He's a snake oil salesman. Charlatan.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Trolling hard today hey.....

Obvious trolling, or pure obtuseness aside who knows, I didn't want to come across as if I was saying he is the ultimate solution, despite his 100% success rate, you know being cautious.

There are many other doctors (though this is debatable in big hospitals where big pharma reigns it seems) who are using their God-given talent and schooling to try and find solutions.

Ivermectin is big pharma. Made by the same people that make the vaccine...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Her are two articles you can read.

Modern Medicine

www.modernmedia.co.za

First one is on page 3 A KZN Doctor's Observations and Treatment of Covid-19 Reveal a Missing Element
The second you just need to click on the link at the end of the article to go to page 28 Elucidating the Pathogenesis and Rx of Covid Reveals a Missing Element

So, why does he publish it in a glossy instead of reporting it to the WHO?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Yes and you're still deflecting. J&J data doesn't back up his position so we can assume he's either wrong or just anecdotally lucky. But again >>> vaccine thread this way


I did not say 5 died from the vaccine. Learn to read.


Well clearly they're lying if they say no evidence.


Dunning Kruger says hi.

Dunning Kruger is actually about those who think they understand a subject due to lack of qualifications...

Quo Vadis?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Now, this was very very useful and interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Nothing about his views on IVM published that you know of other than that video?

A glossy was useful?

 

[Spizz]

15 minutes in and taking notes, need a break now You could watch the video!

Here ladies and gentlemen we witness a trainee “expert” coming to the end of his social media training. After competing the introductory course on his local dorp’s Facebook page, there is just another 45 minutes of this here 60 minute Yoochoob video and he is fully qualified to question medical science and randomly use the terms “MSM” and “big pharma” freely.

 

[SoldierMan]

Here ladies and gentlemen we witness a trainee “expert” coming to the end of his social media training. After competing the introductory course on his local dorp’s Facebook page, there is just another 45 minutes of this here 60 minute Yoochoob video and he is fully qualified to question medical science and randomly use the terms “MSM” and “big pharma” freely.

What in the heck are you talking about I was taking notes for people who don't have the time to watch the whole video and I know Geoff doesn't like to watch videos.

It in no way makes me an expert on anything you imbecile, it just means I wrote down what he said and people can make up their own minds. But it does show what an jerk you are for thinking that that is what I thought. I think though what it shows is that you were projecting quite a bit as you consider yourself quite the expert don't you......

Now go troll somewhere else with your anti anything vax crap.

 

[Spizz]

What in the heck are you talking about I was taking notes for people who don't have the time to watch the whole video and I know Geoff doesn't like to watch videos.

It in no way makes me an expert on anything you imbecile, it just means I wrote down what he said and people can make up their own minds. But it does show what an jerk you are for thinking that that is what I thought. I think though what it shows is that you were projecting quite a bit as you consider yourself quite the expert don't you......

Now go troll somewhere else with your anti anything vax crap.

Oh, I do beg your pardon. I must have got it wrong. What medical qualifications do you have?

And I’ve mentioned it many times, but the very fact that I have no medical qualifications means that I follow the advice of those that do know what they are talking about.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

What in the heck are you talking about I was taking notes for people who don't have the time to watch the whole video and I know Geoff doesn't like to watch videos.

It in no way makes me an expert on anything you imbecile, it just means I wrote down what he said and people can make up their own minds. But it does show what an jerk you are for thinking that that is what I thought. I think though what it shows is that you were projecting quite a bit as you consider yourself quite the expert don't you......

Now go troll somewhere else with your anti anything vax crap.

You didn't get the implication that a Yootchoob session replaces many years of university study? Perfect for you armchair medical researchers.

 

[pouroverguy]

Oh, I do beg your pardon. I must have got it wrong. What medical qualifications do you have?

And I’ve mentioned it many times, but the very fact that I have no medical qualifications means that I follow the advice of those that do know what they are talking about.

Careful, your logic and humility to believe that you can't possibly know everything and to trust experts is going to get you called a "sheep" or someone that can't think for himself.

 

[SoldierMan]

Oh, I do beg your pardon. I must have got it wrong. What medical qualifications do you have?

And I’ve mentioned it many times, but the very fact that I have no medical qualifications means that I follow the advice of those that do know what they are talking about.

Like the two doctors in the video? Aah good to know

 

[surface]

Here ladies and gentlemen we witness a trainee “expert” coming to the end of his social media training. After competing the introductory course on his local dorp’s Facebook page, there is just another 45 minutes of this here 60 minute Yoochoob video and he is fully qualified to question medical science and randomly use the terms “MSM” and “big pharma” freely.

Problem is he watches honey boo boo, bible nonsense and IVM documentaries and switches channels every 5 minutes. Must get kind of dizzy.

 

[semaphore]

Like the two doctors in the video? Aah good to know

You interpret the bible as literal, says enough about your cognitive abilities.

 

[SoldierMan]

You interpret the bible as literal, says enough about your cognitive abilities.

And you follow big pharma like a sheep despite their terrible track record, says your level of discernment is near zero.