Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

buka001

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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a hypothetical cognitive bias stating that people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability.

As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".[1] It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from people's inability to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their level of competence.

The effect, or Dunning and Kruger's original explanation for the effect, has been challenged by mathematical analyses[2][3][4][5][6][7] and comparisons across cultures.[8][9]

Outside psychology, non-professionals often invoke the Dunning-Kruger effect to insult people. Mark Murphy calls this abuse of the theory a form of "weaponized psychology".[10]


In short people with low ability in a field can't recognise that low ability because you require at least moderate ability to know what you're not good at. While at the other end of the scale people who are indeed trained enough lose the ability to recognise when others are indeed competent enough.

Yip, this part -
In short people with low ability in a field can't recognise that low ability because you require at least moderate ability to know what you're not good at. While at the other end of the scale people who are indeed trained enough lose the ability to recognise when others are indeed competent enough.

Describes you, Geoff and Soldier to a T.
 

SoldierMan

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How can you actually believe that nonsense? That would make Ivermectin the most effective drug EVER.

I posted a video yesterday and in that interview the doc (he was interviewing Dr Chetty) says he as had no hospitalisations or deaths. He said he uses it profusely.
 

buka001

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Read up on its history. Even your friend Buka doesn't hold that view any more.
I do.

I posted it as Ironic.

I know the distinction between the dip version and the tablet form and I know people aren't drinking the dip. (Well I have heard that some people are?)

But the pharmological make up of the dip and the tablet have the same basic make up.

Ivermectin.
 

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I posted a video yesterday and in that interview the doc (he was interviewing Dr Chetty) says he as had no hospitalisations or deaths. He said he uses it profusely.

Oh yes, of course. Yootchoob. Replaces all real research and university study in only a few sessions.
 

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I know the distinction between the dip version and the tablet form and I know people aren't drinking the dip. (Well I have heard that some people are?)

But the pharmological make up of the dip and the tablet have the same basic make up.

Ivermectin.

Some actually are. My farmers co-op can't keep up with the demand...
 

Cosmik Debris

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Here it is, but it is not your precious (corrupt) WHO or CDC so you won't accept it as usual.


Looks like the owners of that FLCCC website are too scared to put their cucks on a block too. Did you read these parts of your fake news website:

Welcome to https://covid19criticalcare.com, the website of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (“FLCCC”). This Disclaimer contains important information that FLCCC (“our,” “us” or “we”) need to share with you (“user”) and for you to understand. By continuing to use this Website you are agreeing to all parts of this Disclaimer.

Did you bother reading the disclaimer?

No treatment, however, including Ivermectin or the Mask+ Protocol, has been accepted by our public health system as proven to prevent, mitigate or treat COVID-19.

Public Health Notice


The Ivermectin/Mask+ Protocol is not a substitute for preventive measures. Patients using the preventive protocols should follow all measures recommended by public health authorities, including social distancing, masking and vaccinations as appropriate.
 

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There are people who get sick from Covid, follow the accepted treatment path, get treated with medicines their doctors prescribe for them, end up in hospital and die anyway.
Do you see a campaign being launched against the drugs used in their treatment?
No?
Then why this campaign against IVM?
Hey Geoff, if you have so much confidence in ivermectin, why did you not treat your splinter by applying ivermectin to the wound? Why did you instead choose to apply motor grease to the wound? And if you have so much confidence in motor grease, why aren't you advocating its use to treat Covid?
 

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From your FLCCC website:

No treatment, however, including Ivermectin or the Mask+ Protocol, has been accepted by our public health system as proven to prevent, mitigate or treat COVID-19.

Public Health Notice

The Ivermectin/Mask+ Protocol is not a substitute for preventive measures. Patients using the preventive protocols should follow all measures recommended by public health authorities, including social distancing, masking and vaccinations as appropriate.
 

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Oh dear. The attachment actually applies to you. Remember this?
You really are a complete dunce sometimes.

It was FIRST used to treat humans for diseases like River Blindness, Elephantitias and other parasite diseases.

It was LATER repurposed for use in animals.

Get your facts straight.

And that was upvoted by all the pro Ivermectin persons here, @Geoff.D @Howdy and @Swa when the truth is this:

Talking kak as usual:

By 1986, ivermectin was registered for use in 46 countries and was administered massively to cattle, sheep and other animals. Ivermectin was approved for human use in 1988.

Sources -

Ōmura S, Crump A (December 2004). "The life and times of ivermectin - a success story". Nature Reviews. Microbiology. 2 (12): 984–9. doi:10.1038/nrmicro1048. PMID 15550944. S2CID 22722403.

Fox LM (December 2006). "Ivermectin: uses and impact 20 years on". Current Opinion in Infectious Diseases. 19 (6): 588–93. doi:10.1097/QCO.0b013e328010774c. PMID 17075336. S2CID 19269027.
 

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Hey Geoff, if you have so much confidence in ivermectin, why did you not treat your splinter by applying ivermectin to the wound? Why did you instead choose to apply motor grease to the wound? And if you have so much confidence in motor grease, why aren't you advocating its use to treat Covid?

I know you think that's funny but it's actually really stupid and shows your total bias and lack of impartiality.

It's like saying if you think toothpaste is so good for your teeth why did you not use it to treat the fungus infection on your penis?
 

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Someone else posted it in this thread, they are in bed with big pharma.

Any idea where? Or could you link me to it? You’ve obviously done your own research.

And why are you ignoring the disclaimer from FLCCC website? Kinda blows every single thing you and your fellow contrarians are saying out of the water. Not so? Or does the truth not matter and you only want to win an argument?
 
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