Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[Cosmik Debris]

Because they've been answered, you're still parroting because you don't understand the answers.

Nope, wrong answer for the date and how do you know those people recovered due to ivermectin at all?

 

[Howdy]

Nope, wrong answer for the date and how do you know those people recovered due to ivermectin at all?

magic

 

[Cosmik Debris]

magic

Yeah, no use having a convo with you. Whose clone account are you?

 

[Howdy]

Yeah, no use having a convo with you. Whose clone account are you?

We already addressed that as well. A convo takes two sides, you showed a lack of interest at the time.

On the second point ... want a convo about it?

 

[Howdy]

But those on this forum in support of allowing doctors to prescribe any drug incl IVM have NEVER pushed that line. We have consistently stated our position that it is NOT an either or debate. Yet every time new evidence surfaces the above debate starts all over again.
To the point where blatantly false claims are made about IVM.
No one wants to acknowledge for one second anything positive about IVM.
When evidence is posted about its safety as a medication for human use the evidence is not accepted. When evidence is posted that there have been no deaths related to IVM use that is rejected etc.

You left out the "Dip a ouma" part.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

We already addressed that as well. A convo takes two sides, you showed a lack of interest at the time.

On the second point ... want a convo about it?

Forget it. You've proven dismissive. I don't have convo's with the dismissive. My interaction with you is over except to point out your mistakes and fallacies.

 

[Howdy]

Forget it. You've proven dismissive. I don't have convo's with the dismissive. My interaction with you is over except to point out your mistakes and fallacies.

Excellent! If you ever want an honest conversation, you know where to find me.

 

[Swa]

Still waiting for you to tell me what the correct dose and administration frequency of Ivermectin is.

Something all the pro Ivermectin proponents here are avoiding...

Nobody here is recommending sheep dip, which is what you're going by.

Yip, this part -


Describes you, Geoff and Soldier to a T.

Funny how you people keep excluding yourselves from falling for the trap when you are in fact the most likely to. You forgot to read the rest. The D-C effect is specifically about those who are incapable of recognising their shortcomings because of their inabilities. If you recognise your inabilities you can mitigate it.

The thing is, Swa said the other day that one is more likely to die from flu than from Covid. I countered this claim with data on flu deaths from the CDC. Swa responded that the data is wrong. How can I reason with such folks?

Can any of you debate without resorting to lies?

Is that on it's professional Covid Vaccine website or it's educational website which is prone to abuse by non medical persons such as yourself?

It's on their official website. What you and the other clowns on here ignore is that there are no medical recommendations, even official ones. All information is for educational purposes only and the only thing that matters is what you and your doctor think. That's because we are all different individuals. Kinda defeats the claim here that doctors should subscribe to the official narrative when that official narrative actually defers to the doctor-patient relationship as the highest authority in medicine.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Nobody here is recommending sheep dip, which is what you're going by.

Ivermectin is sheep dip. The same formula is in tablet and injectable form.

If it's not the same formula, it cannot be called Ivermectin. Weren't you the one that posted molecules and their bonds without understanding what the lines, double lines and diminishing lines meant and never bothered answering when I asked you to explain what they mean?

 

[buka001]

Nobody here is recommending sheep dip, which is what you're going by.


Funny how you people keep excluding yourselves from falling for the trap when you are in fact the most likely to. You forgot to read the rest. The D-C effect is specifically about those who are incapable of recognising their shortcomings because of their inabilities. If you recognise your inabilities you can mitigate it.


Can any of you debate without resorting to lies?


It's on their official website. What you and the other clowns on here ignore is that there are no medical recommendations, even official ones. All information is for educational purposes only and the only thing that matters is what you and your doctor think. That's because we are all different individuals. Kinda defeats the claim here that doctors should subscribe to the official narrative when that official narrative actually defers to the doctor-patient relationship as the highest authority in medicine.

Cheers Doctor, but I literally said I am incompetent when it comes to epidemiology. Have you?

Hence, why I post the opinions of actual epidemiologists, who go further to actually reference and cite the studies that inform those opinions.

 

[Swa]

Ivermectin is sheep dip. The same formula is in tablet and injectable form.

If it's not the same formula, it cannot be called Ivermectin. Weren't you the one that posted molecules and their bonds without understanding what the lines, double lines and diminishing lines meant and never bothered answering when I asked you to explain what they mean?

So is antibiotics. Doesn't stop you from taking penicillin. You know Ivernmectin is an ingredient? Pills contain fillers so you don't need a microscope to find them. Likewise does sheep dip. Only thing is that animal products are not as highly regulated and don't need to list every single ingredient. This is just the same crap from you lot that what counts for the goose doesn't for the gander.

And don't assume what I know or don't.

Cheers Doctor, but I literally said I am incompetent when it comes to epidemiology. Have you?

Hence, why I post the opinions of actual epidemiologists, who go further to actually reference and cite the studies that inform those opinions.

And the rest of the people on here don't? You just choose to ignore them.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

So is antibiotics. Doesn't stop you from taking penicillin. You know Ivernmectin is an ingredient? Pills contain fillers so you don't need a microscope to find them. Likewise does sheep dip. Only thing is that animal products are not as highly regulated and don't need to list every single ingredient. This is just the same crap from you lot that what counts for the goose doesn't for the gander.

Antibiotics are mould - Fungi. Mushrooms. Ivermectin is not an antibiotic ingredient. Ivermectin was only discovered about 50 years ago. Antibiotics have been around about 100 years.

The filler in tablets is Kaolin. Same stuff used to make heavy high quality paper and porcelain tea cups. It's a fine soluble clay that allows slow release of the pills active ingredients.

What's the difference between Ivermectin sheep dip and the stuff you're going to ingest? Any answers?

I suggest you research before you post absolute kak about medicine.

 

[Swa]

Antibiotics are mould - Fungi. Mushrooms. Ivermectin is not an antibiotic ingredient. Ivermectin was only discovered about 50 years ago. Antibiotics have been around about 100 years.

The filler in tablets is Kaolin. Same stuff used to make heavy high quality paper and porcelain tea cups. It's a fine soluble clay that allows slow release of the pills active ingredients.

What's the difference between Ivermectin sheep dip and the stuff you're going to ingest? Any answers?

I suggest you research before you post absolute kak about medicine.

It's also used in cattle so obviously disqualifies it for human use. No it's only the clown brigade that has that view. The rest of the people with two brain cells have enough intelligence to recognise there are at least 4 options.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It's also used in cattle so obviously disqualifies it for human use. No it's only the clown brigade that has that view. The rest of the people with two brain cells have enough intelligence to recognise there are at least 4 options.

So, because Ivermectin is used as a universal anti parasitic and you're butthurt about the sheep dip label, you disingeniously and dishonestly try to imply I'm lying and don't know the uses of Ivermectin?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It's also used in cattle so obviously disqualifies it for human use. No it's only the clown brigade that has that view. The rest of the people with two brain cells have enough intelligence to recognise there are at least 4 options.

The clown brigade? First you claim Ivermectin is an antibiotic. Then pill filler is so that they're not microscopic. You don't know the difference between bacteria and parasites and didn't know antibiotics are fungi. You thought an anti parasitic was effective against bacteria too.

Maybe you should go buy the clown suit to complement your medical knowledge?

 

[teejay 44]

Well I haven't vaccinated yet. I applied last month. I was told I would be told what to do next.

So far nothing.

 

[teejay 44]

I'm not eagerly waiting on a response. Imma bit disappointed.

 

[Geoff.D]

Ivermectin proposes many potentials effects to treat a range of diseases, with its antimicrobial, antiviral, and anti-cancer properties as a wonder drug. It is highly effective against many microorganisms including some viruses.

In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years.

Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Furthermore, there are some studies showing antiviral effects of ivermectin against DNA viruses such as Equine herpes type 1, BK polyomavirus, pseudorabies, porcine circovirus 2, and bovine herpesvirus 1.

Not bad for sheep dip would you not say.

 

[teejay 44]

I know the ANC is stupid and useless. So does everyone else. But really. They really proving it now.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Not bad for sheep dip would you not say.

Source please. You can't just post claims without the source. Or did you specifically leave the source out because your info is from one of those less credible sites?

And it is a sheep dip as well as used for other purposes.