Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[NarrowBandFtw]

vaccines do not stop the spread with other vaccines too. They prevent the vaccinated getting the disease. You're displaying your complete ignorance about vaccine.

the MANDATES holy motherfcking sweet zombie jesus!!!

WHY THE MANDATES if it works AT ALL?!?

 

[PsyWulf]

I must give @NarrowBandFtw points though
He/she/it will argue fire doesn't kill everyone hydrated enough while standing in the middle of a firestorm with a beer in hand ready to prove everyone wrong
He's that dedicated to his personal brand of horsecrap

 

[Geoff.D]

excellent, then point me at it, seeing as multiple ZA doctors have been on the damn TV news talking openly about how they treat patients with IVM and none of them have lost their medical licence

I have 5 recorded interviews with ZA doctors on ch 404 since about July last year, all talking about their success in treating patients with IVM. There may even be more. The last one was on a program that plays out early in the morning from 05:00 - 06:00 on a Friday I think and repeated over the weekends.

The treatments have evolved since the first, the dosages have increased over time, and the severity of the disease treated now covers mild, moderate and severe cases. In other words, doctors are learning more and more about how to effectively use IVM to treat their patients.

 

[Temujin]

For those who don't know I'm in the pro-IVM camp, but this is too funny not to share, LOL

 

[vigras rojara]

I have 5 recorded interviews with ZA doctors on ch 404 since about July last year, all talking about their success in treating patients with IVM. There may even be more. The last one was on a program that plays out early in the morning from 05:00 - 06:00 on a Friday I think and repeated over the weekends.

The treatments have evolved since the first, the dosages have increased over time, and the severity of the disease treated now covers mild, moderate and severe cases. In other words, doctors are learning more and more about how to effectively use IVM to treat their patients.

You sure it was ch404 and not Error 404?

 

[Geoff.D]

You sure it was ch404 and not Error 404?

You don't even know where to find ch 404 and won't know what error 404 means either !

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Until the vaccines, as they are at the moment become tomorrows snake oil. And don't believe for one moment that won't happen.

Yeah, Edward Jenner's vaccine from the late 1700's that eradicated smallpox by 1980 was snake oil. Show me any snake oil vaccine?

 

[vigras rojara]

You don't even know where to find ch 404 and won't know what error 404 means either !

Damn, let me have some IVM, I'm sure, neigh, I'm certain that would solve both those problems being a miracle goo and all.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

The scientific consensus is NOT that it is useless, the question is still open. The current ruling is "neither for nor against". There are still trials underway and there ARE many doctors all over the World who are using it because they and their patients believe it works.

Jeez man, no matter how many posts you get with references saying ivermectin has no effectivity against Covid, the more you double down to stick your fingers in your ears and scream that it is effective.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Yes and those of us on this thread in favour of IVM have said that over and over again, that we are NOT promoting self-medication with animal products. You can speak out against this practice without personal attacks, insults and exagerations.

The farmers and people here and in the USA are not listening to you. They see Ivermectin on Facebook and head off to the co-op.

 

[Nerfherder]

Just going to leave this here:

Ivermectin infertility story correction: FDA rejects 2011 Nigeria study

A national story regarding Ivermectin and a study regarding its effect on men’s reproductive health that KTSM published, has been removed from our website.

www.wfla.com

I think it's good that idiots have been taking this...don't need them to breed more stupid people.

Its both funny and sad that the hardline antivaxxers keep bleating on about how your will be dead in 5 years if you take the vaccine and "they" are trying to use the vaccine as a means to control the population.

Then it turns out that the IVM they love so much is proven to do exactly what they fear.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

That specific study has been discredited long ago.

Just like Ivermectin as an anti viral has. But you beat that drum boy.

 

[Geoff.D]

Its both funny and sad that the hardline antivaxxers keep bleating on about how your will be dead in 5 years if you take the vaccine and "they" are trying to use the vaccine as a means to control the population.

Then it turns out that the IVM they love so much is proven to do exactly what they fear.

That study has long ago been discredited! Did you bother to check the date? And the location?
Have you been to Nigeria?
Seen the chaos in Lagos? Experienced life in Abuja and Kano? Worked in Port Harcourt?

 

[tetrasect]

The scientific consensus is NOT that it is useless, the question is still open. The current ruling is "neither for nor against". There are still trials underway and there ARE many doctors all over the World who are using it because they and their patients believe it works.

So as it stands it's on par with homeopathy?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Sure, not saying that the vaccines are not effective. What is clear is that the vaccines are not as effective as the designers believed they would be.

Kak. They had no idea how effective they would be. Many were discarded including Merck's the makers of ivermectin. Only those found to be effective have been used.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

you must've meant the CDC

now for your next trick, tell me what else they all have in common ... I truly hope you're not gullible enough to believe those are three entirely independent institutions ...

Yeah, concentrate on the typo and discard the message. Then throw a defection red herring into the ring.

 

[tetrasect]

Kak. They had no idea how effective they would be. many were discarded including Merck's the makers of ivermectin. Only those found to be effective have been used.

Exactly, scientists did experiments to ascertain whether the vaccines would work or not and they obviously hoped it would be super effective on a larger scale but they didn't "believe" it would be super effective because belief has no place in science. Science is "let's look and see", not "we believe in this".

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I'm not promoting anything, though it's ability to block viral infection is well documented over 3 decades, it is just this specific virus that is "in doubt"

Ivermectin: an award-winning drug with expected antiviral activity against COVID-19

Oh Gawd. We're back to @Swa post in the middle of this thread somewhere. Do a search and see the convo before posting the same old kak that has been discussed please.

 

[Geoff.D]

So as it stands it's on par with homeopathy?

Your comment actually does not deserve a reaction.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Explain.

Your statement shows you have no knowledge of pharmacology. I can't help you further than that without writing a volume here.