Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

Cosmik Debris

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PsyWulf said:
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Yes, him and this charlatan:

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For a parallel to the Ivermectin experts and the unreliability of Wiki, compare these two reports about Pope:

Wiki:

Nick Pope (born 19 September 1965) is a freelance British journalist, media commentator and former civil servant. Whilst an employee at the British Government's Ministry of Defence (MoD), Pope was responsible, among other duties, for investigating UFO phenomena to determine if they had any defence significance.

Pope worked as a civil servant for the Ministry of Defence from 1985 to 2006. From 1991 to 1994 he worked in Secretariat (Air Staff) Sec (AS) 2a more commonly known as the "UFO desk", where his duties included investigating reports of UFO sightings, to see if they had any defence significance.

His role was actually administrative and not investigative as exposed by Dr David Clarke:

We didn’t investigate. Let that sink in. We didn’t investigate. So if Simon/DS8 didn’t investigate one of the biggest UFO stories of its time, why can anyone believe that Nick Pope/DS8 did any investigating when Pope was keeping the desk warm? Linda Unwin, who took the role over from Pope, has also stated that no investigations took place. No mention from Steve that he was once the head of a UFO project. That is because the role was purely administrative.

Nick Pope the UFO investigator does not exist. Nick Pope the UFO investigator is a media-construct. Nick has made no serious contribution to the study of UFOs. Nick Pope is a media ‘talking-head’, wheeled out due to his well crafted back-story. Nick has lied about his role consistently. The official paperwork is in the public domain which proves he has lied. Here is Dr David Clarke’s article

The Wiki woo is exactly what the Ivermectin enthusiasts lock onto and the algorithm rabbit hole their searches send them down and they have no clue they're being duped.
 
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buka001 said:
I suspect you never actually read much of the bible. Or at least the bits that tell you what you shouldn't be doing as a Christian?

Only the bits which you think empowered you to be homophobic or judgmental of others.
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Hahahahaha you're good for a laugh, thanks.

Typical atheist who thinks he knows everything about everything and thinks he's better than everyone, especially Christians.
 
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SoldierMan said:
Hahahahaha you're good for a laugh, thanks.

Typical atheist who thinks he knows everything about everything and thinks he's better than everyone, especially Christians.
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As an atheist, I have found I know the bible far better than most Christians. It's how I came to be an atheist after being brought up with Christianity around me. I read and studied the bible only to find it contradictory, ludicrous, illogical and impossible.

It's the reason you won't answer questions about whether you have killed a policeman for working on the Sabbath as your bible commands you to due to your dishonesty in selectively arguing your bible.
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
No. it's your book full of contradictory rules that is the problem. You choose which to obey and which to ignore anyway, like not killing a policeman for working on the Sabbath which your book says is mandatory.
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Old Testament law was fulfilled by Christ, so no more following the Mosaic ceremonial/civil (ie. we can eat shellfish and have more than one crop in a field now).
Moral law of the commandments, etc remain. Most of those commandments were repeated in the New Testament too.
Christ says that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath, and he also set an example of kindness by not stoning a woman for adultery.

But let's not paint all Christians with the same brush. There are those who are kind, peaceful, realizing that certain types of arguing are often to the benefit of no-one.


Then there's some who aren't so great, like the one group whose leader believes the earth is flat, that vaccines cause autism, that hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin cures COVID, that the UN/WHO is the seven-headed beast of revelations, that the Catholic Church is the prostitute of the book of Revelation, that the Catholic Church created Islam and on top of all that he gets personal revelations about Trump from God.

Sadly @SoldierMan has found himself in the latter group (cult even?) and listens to this man's personal conspiracy theories every Sunday which is why is is so staunchly in the anti-vax pro-Ivermectin camp.
Because if he admits vaccines are effective at saving lives and that Ivermectin is not as proven as he believes, he'll realize that Dean Odle, the man he entrusted with his faith, is actually just a fallible man who can say what he likes without being held accountable for nonsense because the church has no proper organizational structure and hierarchy for accountability.
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
As an atheist, I have found I know the bible far better than most Christians. It's how I came to be an atheist after being brought up with Christianity around me. I read and studied the bible only to find it contradictory, ludicrous, illogical and impossible.

It's the reason you won't answer questions about whether you have killed a policeman for working on the Sabbath as your bible commands you to due to your dishonesty in selectively arguing your bible.
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Come on man, you are very ignorant about the Bible, you for instance think that the Bible says that only 144,000 people go to heaven. Yet you say you know more about the Bible than most Christians.....
 
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NR7 said:
Old Testament law was fulfilled by Christ, so no more following the Mosaic ceremonial/civil (ie. we can eat shellfish and have more than one crop in a field now).
Moral law of the commandments, etc remain. Most of those commandments were repeated in the New Testament too.
Christ says that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath, and he also set an example of kindness by not stoning a woman for adultery.

But let's not paint all Christians with the same brush. There are those who are kind, peaceful, realizing that certain types of arguing are often to the benefit of no-one.


Then there's some who aren't so great, like the one group whose leader believes the earth is flat, that vaccines cause autism, that hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin cures COVID, that the UN/WHO is the seven-headed beast of revelations, that the Catholic Church is the prostitute of the book of Revelation, that the Catholic Church created Islam and on top of all that he gets personal revelations about Trump from God.

Sadly @SoldierMan has found himself in the latter group (cult even?) and listens to this man's personal conspiracy theories every Sunday which is why is is so staunchly in the anti-vax pro-Ivermectin camp.
Because if he admits vaccines are effective at saving lives and that Ivermectin is not as proven as he believes, he'll realize that Dean Odle, the man he entrusted with his faith, is actually just a fallible man who can say what he likes without being held accountable for nonsense because the church has no proper organizational structure and hierarchy for accountability.
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What the heck are you doing making this personal and about me now??

You call yourself a Christian but here you are slandering me in public and making it into a sideshow about my personal beliefs. To put it bluntly, bugger off.

Just stop now, I thought you might have just not thought straight last time but here you are again deliberately this time making this public and out in the open. Find someone else to obsess on, I'm getting enough of this.

You point fingers at me but you are breaking all your own rules, and on top of that you can't even see the lateness of the hour in terms of the end times. Now go find someone else to mock and obsess over, please.
 
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SoldierMan said:
What the heck are you doing making this personal and about me now??

You call yourself a Christian but here you are slandering me in public and making it into a sideshow about my personal beliefs. To put it bluntly, bugger off.

Just stop now, I thought you might have just not thought straight last time but here you are again deliberately this time making this public and out in the open. Find someone else to obsess on, I'm getting enough of this.

You point fingers at me but you are breaking all your own rules, and on top of that you can't even see the lateness of the hour in terms of the end times. Now go find someone else to mock and obsess over, please.
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Please quote where I slandered you.
 
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NR7 said:
Please quote where I slandered you.
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You are giving out my life story and telling everyone that I'm an idiot for believing what I do.

Next you will be telling everyone what guns I own, my cell number and home address.

What's your problem? Go bother someone else with your obsessive ramblings. If you had any sense of Christian decency you would have PM'd me, but here you are again telling the world what an idiot I am just like the atheists around here who are loving every second of it. They love you now man! But when I did PM you on another forum you didn't even bother responding so clearly you aren't interested in a constructive debate and just want to get personal in a public space.

I believe there is something in the Bible about sowing discord amongst brethren, you are wallowing in it right now. You remind me of the atheists on these boards that want to make things personal.

So kindly leave me, my pastor and anything else out of your public ramblings. Perhaps you enjoy trashing fellow Christians who don't believe like you do, or perhaps it's just me, I don't know, either way stop it.
 
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