Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[NeoNarchy]

Glad to see there is someone prepared to stand up and also say enough. I have only managed to view one or two of his videos and each time he made his points clearly and in a language easy to understand.

The denigration of people has to stop. The moderators are very remiss in not stepping to stop these attacks.

Covid has polarized a lot of people to either pro or anti vax, you can't be in the middle any more and try and ask questions or see if there is alternatives to a disease where we are learning everyday, and the same happens with information online. People are to quick to jump on the "fake news" bandwagon, and not willing to see what other people say(i am not talking about conspiracy theory nuts saying the vax is the beast or full of graphine etc) It is as if we have been stripped of our right to question or seek information. How are we supposed to make an informed decision without looking at both sides of the coin. This has been a hard 2 years lots of things happened and are happening that we never would have imaged happening 2 years ago.

 

[NeoNarchy]

Reading up, he was quite normal early on in the pandemic and did a lot of good general info videos, then he went down the IVM rabbit hole this year and slowly went towards the mental ivmoron scale of idiocy. To the extent now that the Iveretards use him as some shining example of why everyone should be on horse dewormer.

He did the same with Hydroxychloroquine, information gets published online, then he takes it and presents it to the viewer. He is one of the most Pro Vax people online, took every vaccine and breaks it down as well, did the same with the virus.
Been on countless interviews in the British media, has doctors and nurses all over the world send him info and video clips since the start of the pandemic. He even has a theory as to why we see hart issues in people being vaccinated and it goes back to research done in the 2000's where vaccines were directly injected into blood veins, he insists on asperation when injections are administered. He has so much info in his collection its insane and worth a look.

 

[PsyWulf]

He did the same with Hydroxychloroquine, information gets published online, then he takes it and presents it to the viewer. He is one of the most Pro Vax people online, took every vaccine and breaks it down as well, did the same with the virus.
Been on countless interviews in the British media, has doctors and nurses all over the world send him info and video clips since the start of the pandemic. He even has a theory as to why we see hart issues in people being vaccinated and it goes back to research done in the 2000's where vaccines were directly injected into blood veins, he insists on asperation when injections are administered. He has so much info in his collection its insane and worth a look.

Not discounting the nurse,he's quite rational and good at presenting the info.
I just really don't need a tertiary breakdown of every minutiae to understand why to vaccinate.
No youtube for or against will be given consideration

This insufferable need for dumbing down things to kindergarten levels to still be disregarded by team #novaxx is too much

 

[Dave]

He did the same with Hydroxychloroquine, information gets published online, then he takes it and presents it to the viewer. He is one of the most Pro Vax people online, took every vaccine and breaks it down as well, did the same with the virus.

Maybe so, but the anti-vaxx morons jump onto every slip of the tongue and every partial fact to push their lunatic agendas.

Man mentions ivermectin every ivmoron jumps on it as if it's god's new manna from heaven.

 

[JohnStarr]

Glad to see there is someone prepared to stand up and also say enough. I have only managed to view one or two of his videos and each time he made his points clearly and in a language easy to understand.

The denigration of people has to stop. The moderators are very remiss in not stepping to stop these attacks.

Dude, you are a hypocrite. You yourself a few months ago laid into that specialist of medicine at Groote Schuur.
Now you're asking the moderators to stop those attacks when you yourself were doing them.

 

[Dave]

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Dude, you are a hypocrite. You yourself a few months ago laid into that specialist of medicine at Groote Schuur.
Now you're asking the moderators to stop those attacks when you yourself were doing them.

@Geoff.D hatred of me is now spilling over into other threads where he challenges and lambastes me with ad hominem attacks. There seem to be some major personal issues.

 

[JohnStarr]

@Geoff.D hatred of me is now spilling over into other threads where he challenges and lambastes me with ad hominem attacks. There seem to be some major personal issues.

I'd simply laugh at him anyways as I have before.

 

[PsyWulf]

@Geoff.DThere seem to be some major personal issues.

Guy flipflops more than Julius Malema
He must be fighting between raging disgust and raging boners for anyone with an opinion

 

[Geoff.D]

He even has a theory as to why we see hart issues in people being vaccinated and it goes back to research done in the 2000's where vaccines were directly injected into blood veins, he insists on asperation when injections are administered.

It is not a theory, it is fact known for a very very long time already. The entire issue goes to the very heart of understanding why some injections should be given into muscular tissue. It is fully described in a medical textbook I have dated 1972.

The very essence is about the slow absorption of a substance injected into the body ---- these vaccines are supposed to be absorbed slowly over time.

The fact that this technique is not practised routinely is an indictment related to poor training and plain carelessness so often found in modern society in all walks of life.

 

[JohnStarr]

It is not a theory, it is fact known for a very very long time already. The entire issue goes to the very heart of understanding why some injections should be given into muscular tissue. It is fully described in a medical textbook I have dated 1972.

The very essence is about the slow absorption of a substance injected into the body ---- these vaccines are supposed to be absorbed slowly over time.

The fact that this technique is not practised routinely is an indictment related to poor training and plain carelessness so often found in modern society in all walks of life.

...now you have a medical textbook? Story changes subtly every time.

 

[buka001]

It is not a theory, it is fact known for a very very long time already. The entire issue goes to the very heart of understanding why some injections should be given into muscular tissue. It is fully described in a medical textbook I have dated 1972.

The very essence is about the slow absorption of a substance injected into the body ---- these vaccines are supposed to be absorbed slowly over time.

The fact that this technique is not practised routinely is an indictment related to poor training and plain carelessness so often found in modern society in all walks of life.

A man with zero medical training and expertise, reads a "medical textbook" from 1972, proceeds to declare current medical practices are inadequate due to poor training.

Have we found the most defining example of Dunning-Kruger ever?

 

[Brontosaurus]

@Geoff.D hatred of me is now spilling over into other threads where he challenges and lambastes me with ad hominem attacks. There seem to be some major personal issues.

...

BOOMER FIGHT!!!

 

[JohnStarr]

A man with zero medical training and expertise, reads a "medical textbook" from 1972, proceeds to declare current medical practices are inadequate due to poor training.

Have we found the most defining example of Dunning-Kruger ever?

The textbook is a new addition.

...and it's not like medicine hasn't changed in the past 49 years. Can't be! /s

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It is not a theory, it is fact known for a very very long time already. The entire issue goes to the very heart of understanding why some injections should be given into muscular tissue. It is fully described in a medical textbook I have dated 1972.

The very essence is about the slow absorption of a substance injected into the body ---- these vaccines are supposed to be absorbed slowly over time.

The fact that this technique is not practised routinely is an indictment related to poor training and plain carelessness so often found in modern society in all walks of life.

Geoff, the intramuscular injection is given in the superior anterior quadrant (Look up the medical terminology to understand what that means) of the upper arm. The reason for that is because there are few nerves and no major blood vessels in that area. It's unlikely a vein will be hit with the short needle used.

I don't see how you can comment on medical techniques when you have no qualification in them and are not allowed in the presence of a patient being injected anyway as you have no medical reason to be there.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

A man with zero medical training and expertise, reads a "medical textbook" from 1972, proceeds to declare current medical practices are inadequate due to poor training.

Have we found the most defining example of Dunning-Kruger ever?

Unregistered level 1 first aid certificate, chemistry text book and now 1972 medical textbook. Also YT videos and antivax site google ability.

 

[Dave]

It is fully described in a medical textbook I have dated 1972.

I have a surgical text book dated 1854, does that make me a qualified surgeon as well?

 

[semaphore]

It is not a theory, it is fact known for a very very long time already. The entire issue goes to the very heart of understanding why some injections should be given into muscular tissue. It is fully described in a medical textbook I have dated 1972.

The very essence is about the slow absorption of a substance injected into the body ---- these vaccines are supposed to be absorbed slowly over time.

The fact that this technique is not practised routinely is an indictment related to poor training and plain carelessness so often found in modern society in all walks of life.

You're a ****ing buffoon.

 

[JohnStarr]

The fact that this technique is not practised routinely is an indictment related to poor training and plain carelessness so often found in modern society in all walks of life.

How on earth are you making this the norm now? Watched our kids get vaccinated at various stages, I've had various vaccinations and never seen this.
None of our friends have mentioned this. None of our family have mentioned this. In fact, nobody we know has ever raised this as an issue after even having heard it from someone else.

But, here you are making some kind of (throw-out, who cares!) concrete statement about poor vaccinations being done routinely. Where is your proof, otherwise please stop making completely baseless and unproven statements. You are, quite frankly, making a mockery of the medical field again with an unproven statement.

 

[PsyWulf]

It is not a theory, it is fact known for a very very long time already. The entire issue goes to the very heart of understanding why some injections should be given into muscular tissue. It is fully described in a medical textbook I have dated 1972.

The very essence is about the slow absorption of a substance injected into the body ---- these vaccines are supposed to be absorbed slowly over time.

The fact that this technique is not practised routinely is an indictment related to poor training and plain carelessness so often found in modern society in all walks of life.

Here have a free report for unfounded misinformation to add to your collection "doctor" idiot