Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[Geoff.D]

Even if you dont aspirate you not going DIRECTLY into the bloodstream. When they directly they mean IV. You not going to die nor will you get any extreme side-effects if no aspiration was done btw.

So I'll say it again, you over doing it with the technique of the injection to paint a negative image of the vaccination process.

Not going to fall for this crap anymore. And no, YOU are WRONG. The risk of striking a blood vessel still exists hence WHY the technique is used, as a safety measure to avoid an avoidable risk. If blood enters the syringe it shows immediately. Take the trouble and watch the Dr Campbell videos on the subject (which I did last night).

You WILL trigger an extreme side effect as has been shown many times all over the world already.
And BTW the needle prick then bleeds way more than the normal when this happens. And I am NOT referring to the tiny blood spot that normally shows either. And also, BTW someone that is really good at IMI, easily avoids even that. AND it is NOT equivalent to the finger prick blood test which IS designed to deliberately trigger some bleeding.

Go and read up on the needles used for each if you still don't want to accept it.

Over and out.

 

[RiaX]

Not going to fall for this crap anymore. And no, YOU are WRONG. The risk of striking a blood vessel still exists hence WHY the technique is used, as a safety measure to avoid an avoidable risk. If blood enters the syringe it shows immediately. Take the trouble and watch the Dr Campbell videos on the subject (which I did last night).

Over and out.

All injections eventually enter the bloodstream at some point .... the point of an IM shot is to depot the drug and create a reserve and slow release. This is my field Geoff

 

[JohnStarr]

And for CONFIRMING despite the rant Riax started that the local training of new personnel did NOT/does not include Aspiration. There was no point in his rant except another desperate attempt to discredit someone who might not be an "expert" in the field.

You're doing just that buddy...discrediting someone who IS in the field and doing this. As in...In Real Life...!

 

[RiaX]

You're doing just that buddy...discrediting someone who IS in the field and doing this. As in...In Real Life...!

I actually manage a mass vaccine site very few weeks.

Also geoff if your vaccine technique was problematic you would notice it amongst the 6 billion shots so far. There is no point in the body where things cant diffuse in or out of the bloodstream. Take your pick of drug adminstration.

Transdermal, parenteral, oral, eye drop, suppository ... all goes into the blood stream eventually. The rate of diffusion will differ depending on the formulation and route of administration

 

[RiaX]

Go and read up on the needles used for each if you still don't want to accept it.

You realise I make the vaccine shots right? I also order the needles syringes saline and actual vaccines. Im the guy that supplies these sites.

 

[JohnStarr]

Not going to fall for this crap anymore. And no, YOU are WRONG. The risk of striking a blood vessel still exists hence WHY the technique is used, as a safety measure to avoid an avoidable risk. If blood enters the syringe it shows immediately. Take the trouble and watch the Dr Campbell videos on the subject (which I did last night).

You WILL trigger an extreme side effect as has been shown many times all over the world already.
And BTW the needle prick then bleeds way more than the normal when this happens. And I am NOT referring to the tiny blood spot that normally shows either. And also, BTW someone that is really good at IMI, easily avoids even that. AND it is NOT equivalent to the finger prick blood test which IS designed to deliberately trigger some bleeding.

Go and read up on the needles used for each if you still don't want to accept it.

Over and out.

Please STFU now. You're embarrassing yourself.

Get off your LazyBoy, take off the slippers, and maybe see how it's done in real life.

 

[Geoff.D]

drug and create a reserve and slow release.

This.

 

[RiaX]

This.

this what?

 

[Geoff.D]

this what?

SLOW RELEASE!

 

[RiaX]

SLOW RELEASE!

so? what are you trying to say ? are you trying to imply that if the drug goes to a minor capillary its suddendly 100% bioavailable like in an IV infusion ?

 

[Dave]

so? what are you trying to say ? are you trying to imply that if the drug goes to a minor capillary its suddendly 100% bioavailable like in an IV infusion ?

You realise you are doing this?

 

[RiaX]

I know. Its my job to educate people like this. They will be quite as a mouse when the Dr is writing the prescription and come whine by me ....

but we'll get there I hope

 

[Geoff.D]

so? what are you trying to say ? are you trying to imply that if the drug goes to a minor capillary its suddendly 100% bioavailable like in an IV infusion ?

The technique is to AVOID ACCIDENTAL PENETRATION OF A BLOOD VESSEL, which would be tantamount to an IV injection! What is wrong with you?

THAT IS what the technique avoids because aspiration means pulling back on the plunger to detect blood inflow, which means that a blood vessel has been penetrated. It is NOT about minor blood capillaries etc.

Clearly, you are just being deliberately obtuse and frankly just plain stupid!

 

[JohnStarr]

The technique is to AVOID ACCIDENTAL PENETRATION OF A BLOOD VESSEL, which would be tantamount to an IV injection! What is wrong with you?

THAT IS what the technique avoids because aspiration means pulling back on the plunger to detect blood inflow, which means that a blood vessel has been penetrated. It is NOT about minor blood capillaries etc.

Clearly, you are just being deliberately obtuse and frankly just plain stupid!

Please, please stop. It's embarrassing. Not for us...

 

[JohnStarr]

The technique is to AVOID ACCIDENTAL PENETRATION OF A BLOOD VESSEL, which would be tantamount to an IV injection! What is wrong with you?

THAT IS what the technique avoids because aspiration means pulling back on the plunger to detect blood inflow, which means that a blood vessel has been penetrated. It is NOT about minor blood capillaries etc.

Clearly, you are just being deliberately obtuse and frankly just plain stupid!

Reported...

 

[Dave]

Its my job to educate people like this.

You were saying?

The technique is to AVOID ACCIDENTAL PENETRATION OF A BLOOD VESSEL, which would be tantamount to an IV injection! What is wrong with you?
Clearly, you are just being deliberately obtuse and frankly just plain stupid!

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Not going to fall for this crap anymore. And no, YOU are WRONG. The risk of striking a blood vessel still exists hence WHY the technique is used, as a safety measure to avoid an avoidable risk. If blood enters the syringe it shows immediately. Take the trouble and watch the Dr Campbell videos on the subject (which I did last night).

You WILL trigger an extreme side effect as has been shown many times all over the world already.
And BTW the needle prick then bleeds way more than the normal when this happens. And I am NOT referring to the tiny blood spot that normally shows either. And also, BTW someone that is really good at IMI, easily avoids even that. AND it is NOT equivalent to the finger prick blood test which IS designed to deliberately trigger some bleeding.

Go and read up on the needles used for each if you still don't want to accept it.

Over and out.

Once again, @Geoff.D with no medical training at all tells a medical professional they are wrong. The arrogance is amazing...

 

[Geoff.D]

Even if you dont aspirate you not going DIRECTLY into the bloodstream. When they say directly they mean IV. You not going to die nor will you get any extreme side-effects if no aspiration was done btw.

So I'll say it again, you over doing it with the technique of the injection to paint a negative image of the vaccination process.

So this study is all rubbish I suppose?

Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model - PubMed

This study provided in vivo evidence that inadvertent intravenous injection of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines may induce myopericarditis. Brief withdrawal of syringe plunger to exclude blood aspiration may be one possible way to reduce such risk.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Conclusions: This study provided in-vivo evidence that inadvertent intravenous injection of COVID-19 mRNA-vaccines may induce myopericarditis. Brief withdrawal of syringe plunger to exclude blood aspiration may be one possible way to reduce such risk.

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[JohnStarr]

So this study is all rubbish I suppose?

Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model - PubMed

This study provided in vivo evidence that inadvertent intravenous injection of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines may induce myopericarditis. Brief withdrawal of syringe plunger to exclude blood aspiration may be one possible way to reduce such risk.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Please farking stop trying to prove you're right when you're not.

Nobody here has an idea why you have the expectation or entitlement to feel you're right all the time. When you have been proven wrong, you've tried to prove otherwise. Boggles the mind.

 

[LCBXX]

Douche bag...obesity can also be genetic. Unless you know how to reverse that, it's got nothing to do with eating a lot.

There is no cure for being a douche bag though. I thought I'd tell you before you started asking around for one.

Genetic obesity. Now that's novel.