Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[JohnStarr]

Seeing he mentions exercise, he's probably a narcissistic gym freak that wears sleeveless shirts to show the ripped arms thinking people are impressed meanwhile they snigger to themselves. And a roid induced rage against fat people.

...who skips leg day, all the time because "Beefcake!!!"

 

[JohnStarr]

Are you denying that medical experts have been, and are being, bribed/influenced/coerced to present information in support of the Covid narrative?

Prove it, or STFU...both the voices in your head, and on the forum. You're just another person throwing pieces of useless personal information out.

 

[Nerfherder]

You don't need to exercise at all to lose weight. Cut out all carbs and sugar and eat a High Fat, No Carb, No Sugar diet and you will lose weight eating as much as you like. Seen a couch potato lose 30kg in a few months doing that.

Losing weight does not necessarily mean you are getting healthy.
You also lose weight when you get cancer or spend time in a concentration camp.

 

[semaphore]

Becoming fat is a choice and completely self-curable.

Too bad your stupidity isn’t curable.

 

[access]

so hows the ivm stuff going? any new breakthroughs? i read black pepper is also a protease inhibitor

 

[Geoff.D]

so hows the ivm stuff going? any new breakthroughs? i read black pepper is also a protease inhibitor

I could post the latest 4 research documents done on IVM, but what is the point?

Edit: All 4 confirmed the Protease inhibitor properties and one even suggest the correct dosages.

 

[JohnStarr]

I could post the latest 4 research documents done on IVM, but what is the point?

Could you post the latest 4 research documents done on IVM that prove the topic? Ie. IVM shows no benefits?

Oh wait, what's the point...doesn't fit in with your narrative you've tried to push.

 

[access]

I could post the latest 4 research documents done on IVM, but what is the point?

Edit: All 4 confirmed the Protease inhibitor properties and one even suggest the correct dosages.

please post them for me, i will check it out.

 

[semaphore]

I could post the latest 4 research documents done on IVM, but what is the point?

Edit: All 4 confirmed the Protease inhibitor properties and one even suggest the correct dosages.

You mean the point where you claim to have something but talk out your arse like a senile old fool. Sure. Why don’t you paste your ground breaking studies. It’s easier to spew bs then act like a coward when asked to present your research.

Btw we still waiting on your data analysis? Or did little old Geoff realize his understanding of the subject matter is preschool level… yeah I think so.

 

[Geoff.D]

please post them for me, i will check it out.

i will think about it.

 

[RiaX]

So this study is all rubbish I suppose?

Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model - PubMed

This study provided in vivo evidence that inadvertent intravenous injection of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines may induce myopericarditis. Brief withdrawal of syringe plunger to exclude blood aspiration may be one possible way to reduce such risk.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And more!

Yes its rubbish let me explain why. Firstly its not a full study. How much volume where they injecting in the mice ? (its important because we need to know how much they stretched the tissues)

secondly they they testing IM versus IV so they did direct infusion they werent testing IM causing IV like side-effects:

Balb/c mice at different time points after intravenous(IV) or intramuscular(IM) vaccine injection with normal saline(NS) control.

They also noted only the IV mice had cardiac side effects

hough significant weight loss and higher serum cytokine/chemokine levels were found in IM group at 1 to 2 days post-injection(dpi), only IV group developed histopathological changes of myopericarditis as evidenced by cardiomyocyte degeneration, apoptosis and necrosis with adjacent inflammatory cell infiltration

You get the same response if you boost the vaccine via IM or IV if the INTITAL DOSE WAS GIVEN IV. They also dont state what volume they injected IV or IM where they injected IM. They also dont state how long afterwards they gave the booster. In people its 42 days for the second shot and boosters are only being given in SA now.

The histological changes of myopericarditis after the first IV-priming dose persisted for 2 weeks and were markedly aggravated by a second IM- or IV-booster dose

So no where in your article does it say an IM in the deltoid region spills into IV like side effects. No one is given the covid vaccine IV. Period. Also as I said earlier we all aspirate anyways.

Cardiac tissue mRNA expression of IL-1β, IFN-β, IL-6 and TNF-α increased significantly from 1dpi to 2dpi in IV but not IM group, compatible with presence of myopericarditis in IV group

Would you look at that they saying I'm right. Just a standard IM will do no significant increase in cardiac markers were observed. They wouldve used a HUGE needle with respect to the animal size (we use the smallest needle we can but remember the animal is really small so take the guage to ratio and work it out mathematically for an average human). Trust me I know Ive done mice testing.

This looks like a student getting a undergrad/masters degree or something (thats why there so many co-authours). Design an experiment and take it to completion. Its a basic requirement to become a pharmacist. I have like 5 of these types of things floating in journals with my professors names on it.

This is very different from what you claiming. You are claiming that if you inject IM into the arm its going IV because there are minute capillaries in the muscles. I'm telling you there are minute capillaries in all tissue and that's not relevant and will not be considered IV. If you look at it that way then there is no such thing as IM and we know thats incorrect.

You aspirate to see if you hit a vessel large enough, small capillaries will not draw out that much blood out in aspirating it does not mean you havent hit them.

Understand now ?

you other articles are just a search bar there is no full text. I will not bother with it.

 

[Dave]

I could post the latest 4 research documents done on IVM, but what is the point?

So are these in addition to the 80GB of research documents you already have, Professor Geoff?

 

[PsyWulf]

I could post the latest 4 research documents done on IVM, but what is the point?

Edit: All 4 confirmed the Protease inhibitor properties and one even suggest the correct dosages.

If they had been a resounding reviewed success You would've run naked down the street cheering and shouting eureka posting for the world like every other unconfirmed link you've posted

Instead you're a tepid mouse whimpering in the corner

Not buying your salespitch bitch

 

[Geoff.D]

Yes its rubbish let me explain why. Firstly its not a full study. How much volume where they injecting in the mice ? (its important because we need to know how much they stretched the tissues)

secondly they they testing IM versus IV so they did direct infusion they werent testing IM causing IV like side-effects:



They also noted only the IV mice had cardiac side effects



You get the same response if you boost the vaccine via IM or IV if the INTITAL DOSE WAS GIVEN IV. They also dont state what volume they injected IV or IM where they injected IM. They also dont state how long afterwards they gave the booster. In people its 42 days for the second shot and boosters are only being given in SA now.



So no where in your article does it say an IM in the deltoid region spills into IV like side effects. No one is given the covid vaccine IV. Period. Also as I said earlier we all aspirate anyways.



Would you look at that they saying I'm right. Just a standard IM will do no significant increase in cardiac markers were observed. They wouldve used a HUGE needle with respect to the animal size (we use the smallest needle we can but remember the animal is really small so take the guage to ratio and work it out mathematically for an average human). Trust me I know Ive done mice testing.

This looks like a student getting a undergrad/masters degree or something (thats why there so many co-authours). Design an experiment and take it to completion. Its a basic requirement to become a pharmacist. I have like 5 of these types of things floating in journals with my professors names on it.

This is very different from what you claiming. You are claiming that if you inject IM into the arm its going IV because there are minute capillaries in the muscles. I'm telling you there are minute capillaries in all tissue and that's not relevant and will not be considered IV. If you look at it that way then there is no such thing as IM and we know thats incorrect.

You aspirate to see if you hit a vessel large enough, small capillaries will not draw out that much blood out in aspirating it does not mean you havent hit them.

Understand now ?

you other articles are just a search bar there is no full text. I will not bother with it.

Not worth responding because you STILL refuse to acknowledge the ACTUAL issue which is an ACCIDENTAL injection into a BLOOD VESSEL, which IS the reason why Aspiration is done. IT IS NOT about capillary vessels at all.

So this is my last post on the matter. There is nothing more pigheaded than a professional who refuses to see what an argument is and claims superior knowledge to justify his arguments.

That is it I am done and done with you as well.

 

[ScrooV]

So this is my last post on the matter. There is nothing more pigheaded than a professional who refuses to see what an argument is and claims superior knowledge to justify his arguments.

That is it I am done and done with you as well.

Well, I guess none of us really expected you to admit defeat gracefully - else you'd have done it months ago. And none of us actually expect you are really done with it either - unfortunately.

 

[Geoff.D]

Well, I guess none of us really expected you to admit defeat gracefully - else you'd have done it months ago. And none of us actually expect you are really done with it either - unfortunately.

One only admits defeat when you are wrong and I am NOT wrong.

 

[Geoff.D]

please post them for me, i will check it out.

Sorry Access, I will NOT be posting anything else in this thread so that is that.

 

[ScrooV]

One only admits defeat when you are wrong and I am NOT wrong.

Were you wrong when you said you were "done" with it then?

 

[Dave]

Sorry Access, I will NOT be posting anything else in this thread so that is that.

Good, please make sure you keep to your word now.

 

[quovadis]

Apparently there’s no evidence to support that ivermectin didn’t cause covid to mutate into this new super variant.