Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

[access]

so a while ago i guessed that ivermectin might be having a positive affect on people against covid because they have parasites, which weakens your immune response.

they take the ivermectin, it kills the parasites, causing their immune system to respond appropriately again and allowing them to naturally fight off the infection, like most people.

since a vaccine is not magic cure, it just assists your immune system:

Worms can affect vaccine efficacy: lessons for COVID-19?

Although there is no evidence yet that it affects COVID-19 vaccines, schistosomiasis, a neglected tropical disease, has been associated with lower vaccine immunity for several vaccines.

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[JohnStarr]

so a while ago i guessed that ivermectin might be having a positive affect on people against covid because they have parasites, which weakens your immune response.

they take the ivermectin, it kills the parasites, causing their immune system to respond appropriately again and allowing them to naturally fight off the infection, like most people.

since a vaccine is not magic cure, it just assists your immune system:

Worms can affect vaccine efficacy: lessons for COVID-19?

Although there is no evidence yet that it affects COVID-19 vaccines, schistosomiasis, a neglected tropical disease, has been associated with lower vaccine immunity for several vaccines.

theconversation.com

Not everyone has parasites. While it might work for you with tape worm (or whatever worm you have) or lice, and it MIGHT help you, it wouldn't work for me or the next man in the street without a parasitic infection.

 

[access]

Not everyone has parasites. While it might work for you with tape worm (or whatever worm you have) or lice, and it MIGHT help you, it wouldn't work for me or the next man in the street without a parasitic infection.

i never said everyone has parasites, why do you even mention that?

thats just the thing isnt it, ivermectin didnt "*work*" for everyone did it, it appeared to be random

but some people seemed to make dramatic recoveries, but it could not constantly be proven.

 

[JohnStarr]

i never said everyone has parasites, why do you even mention that?

thats just the thing isnt it, ivermectin didnt "*work*" for everyone did it, it appeared to be random

but some people seemed to make dramatic recoveries, but it could not constantly be proven.

Bringing a more "real world" explanation to it, that's all.

 

[access]

Bringing a more "real world" explanation to it, that's all.

ah ok, i dont think anyone thinks everyone has parasites, in this context.

i just highlighted that there appears to be correlation between the drug, parasites and the immune response.

 

[PsyWulf]

so a while ago i guessed that ivermectin might be having a positive affect on people against covid because they have parasites, which weakens your immune response.

they take the ivermectin, it kills the parasites, causing their immune system to respond appropriately again and allowing them to naturally fight off the infection, like most people.

since a vaccine is not magic cure, it just assists your immune system:

Worms can affect vaccine efficacy: lessons for COVID-19?

Although there is no evidence yet that it affects COVID-19 vaccines, schistosomiasis, a neglected tropical disease, has been associated with lower vaccine immunity for several vaccines.

theconversation.com

Vaccines don't require an underlying issue to be efficacious
Ivermectin has a specific usecase there (that was discussed),and it's not prophylaxis

 

[access]

Vaccines don't require an underlying issue to be efficacious
Ivermectin has a specific usecase there (that was discussed),and it's not prophylaxis

im struggling to understand that first sentence of yours, it seems like an oxymoron.

did you read the article?

it says there might be an underlying issue causing vaccines not to be efficacious. like an improper immune response, which parasites cause.

 

[LCBXX]

I don't get the aversion to fat people.

Sure, I think living like that is unhealthy, but, that's their issue, not mine.

@LCBXX you're letting the fatties live rent free in your head. It's honestly not your problem, just live your best life my dude.

You're right. My issue is when people start yappng on about the alcoholics and unvaccinated contributing to overflowing hospitals, and lockdowns, without addressing the, pardon the pun, elephants in ICU.

 

[semaphore]

You're right. My issue is when people start yappng on about the alcoholics and unvaccinated contributing to overflowing hospitals, and lockdowns, without addressing the, pardon the pun, elephants in ICU.

Perhaps if you stop huffing glue you'll see that the ICU wards are not actually overflowing with fat people as much as you seem to think they are.

 

[Nerfherder]

Not everyone has parasites. While it might work for you with tape worm (or whatever worm you have) or lice, and it MIGHT help you, it wouldn't work for me or the next man in the street without a parasitic infection.

I think thats the point... some people have worms so ivm helps because it sorts that out.

 

[JohnStarr]

I think thats the point... some people have worms so ivm helps because it sorts that out.

You realise this is going to summon the IVM Experts again, now that they've sniffed this article being posted?

 

[LCBXX]

Perhaps if you stop huffing glue you'll see that the ICU wards are not actually overflowing with fat people as much as you seem to think they are.

Go bark at the American and European health agency doors where statistics about fatties needing critical care after catching Covid.

Or are they lying about the 70%+ that are fat?

 

[JohnStarr]

Go bark at the American and European health agency doors where statistics about fatties needing critical care after catching Covid.

Or are they lying about the 70%+ that are fat?

You're probably fat and cannot lose the wait, so you're taking out all your latent anger on other overweight people. Anger, denial, redirection of your feelings etc.

Either that, or you have this unhealthy obsession with them in some weird fetish sort of way.

Otherwise you keep on enforcing this ideal that besides being one online, you're a douche IRL. Not sure what juice you took made you like this, but get it seen too man. Maybe call a doctor for a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist. Get yourself seen too.

 

[PsyWulf]

You're probably fat and cannot lose the wait, so you're taking out all your latent anger on other overweight people. Anger, denial, redirection of your feelings etc.

Either that, or you have this unhealthy obsession with them in some weird fetish sort of way.

Otherwise you keep on enforcing this ideal that besides being one online, you're a douche IRL. Not sure what juice you took made you like this, but get it seen too man. Maybe call a doctor for a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist. Get yourself seen too.

@LCBXX hasn't convincingly argued against him being a chubby chaser with rejection issues

 

[LCBXX]

You're probably fat and cannot lose the wait, so you're taking out all your latent anger on other overweight people. Anger, denial, redirection of your feelings etc.

Either that, or you have this unhealthy obsession with them in some weird fetish sort of way.

Otherwise you keep on enforcing this ideal that besides being one online, you're a douche IRL. Not sure what juice you took made you like this, but get it seen too man. Maybe call a doctor for a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist. Get yourself seen too.

You need to run more and talk less.

Are you vaccinated?

 

[PsyWulf]

You realise this is going to summon the IVM Experts again, now that they've sniffed this article being posted?

Nobody ever disagreed that it won't help parasite infested people,which is a niche category

Let them come

 

[JohnStarr]

You need to run more and talk less.

Are you vaccinated?

Yes, and I am fit.

PS: no talking online unless it's a video..."typing" is what's done on a forum.

You need to find some space in that tiny brain to think properly and articulate yourself a bit better. Unless that has shrunk as well?

 

[PsyWulf]

You need to run more and talk less.

Are you vaccinated?

Give it up chubby chaser,your agenda is even further from relevant that the standard ivermecturd

 

[LCBXX]

Yes, and I am fit.

PS: no talking online unless it's a video..."typing" is what's done on a forum.

You need to find some space in that tiny brain to think properly and articulate yourself a bit better. Unless that has shrunk as well?

Why on earth are you then arguing? You're making all the effort needed to boost your health and immunity, but are tolerant of those who don't give a shiit about their own health?

 

[Nerfherder]

You realise this is going to summon the IVM Experts again, now that they've sniffed this article being posted?

I'm totally ok with that because it shows that IVM is not really helping with covid... and also they have worms.