Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

Crimefree

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i still dont know what the hullabaloo was about. tried getting some clarification.
It's about armchair experts who think the most fraudulent publishers of research are experts and a practising doctor eminently qualified who has only his reputation and lively-hood to lose would sprout a bunch of crap he has not experienced. Any idea of the fake rate for medical publications? Any idea of big pharma and how much they have paid out for dangerous and fraudulent medication and claims? I get the idea there are some dunces that think those charlatans licking big pharmas boots for funding set the standard others must surpass. Chetty now has treated +7000 covid patients and not one death. Which of these smart asses can do better? Why are they not out there saving lives from big pharma and WHO who gave the most misleading and detrimental advice possible in order to keep experience and knowledge of treatment to a minimum. What doctor in his right mind does not know early treatment is the best you can do? These clowns and government lackies are still ventilating and watching patients die totally unaware of developments and waiting for somebody to tell them what to do. Where propaganda, indoctrinated fools, censorship and the greedy rule the truth stands little chance.

An inability to develop therapy to treat COVID-19 in its early stages has been a catastrophic failure
in medical practice. The societal and economic cost of this failure is incalculable.~~

Dr Chris Newton, Center for Immune-Metabolism, Microbiome and Bio-Energetic Research, UK

I wonder how many can see the validity of that statement. The result of keeping doctors from treating patients and removing all other information by banning autopsies and discouraging investigations. Then visciously attacking any that do manage to find some differences to their claims and treatments.
 

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Where's Geoff.D at these days? Hope he's OK and not feeling a little horse?
I’m struggling to understand your comment considering there are renowned pulmonologists who have been administering IVM for many months, both out of and in hospital, particularly ones known for advanced Covid treatment/knowledge?

It makes you look like a little ignorant twat, but let’s give you the benefit of the doubt.
 

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I’m struggling to understand your comment considering there are renowned pulmonologists who have been administering IVM for many months, both out of and in hospital, particularly ones known for advanced Covid treatment/knowledge?

It makes you look like a little ignorant twat, but let’s give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did someone let you out of Valkenberg by accident?
 

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I’m struggling to understand your comment considering there are renowned pulmonologists who have been administering IVM for many months, both out of and in hospital, particularly ones known for advanced Covid treatment/knowledge?

It makes you look like a little ignorant twat, but let’s give you the benefit of the doubt.

Yup, let's listen to a few fringe pulmonologists and ignore the entire other 99% of pulmonologists, intensivists and other medical experts who have debunked this nonsense long ago.
 

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Yup, let's listen to a few fringe pulmonologists and ignore the entire other 99% of pulmonologists, intensivists and other medical experts who have debunked this nonsense long ago.
And when it's all over they'll be saying they survived thanks to IVM and get back in the saddle. Oh wait - put on a saddle?
 

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I’m struggling to understand your comment considering there are renowned pulmonologists who have been administering IVM for many months, both out of and in hospital, particularly ones known for advanced Covid treatment/knowledge?

It makes you look like a little ignorant twat, but let’s give you the benefit of the doubt.
And this would be where you give us names.
 

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And this would be where you give us names.
Not sure why any sane person would provide intimate details to people similar to you who behave in the ways they do on this forum. I stay away from these boring types who lack wisdom and knowledge, and who have very little to contribute. Let them enjoy their small black & white, face value worlds.
 

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Not sure why any sane person would provide intimate details to people similar to you who behave in the ways they do on this forum. I stay away from these boring types who lack wisdom and knowledge, and who have very little to contribute. Let them enjoy their small black & white, face value worlds.
No one wants to know their favourite toothpaste or underwear size. Or even their phone numbers... But surely if they are renowned pulmonologists as you say, they must have published some research papers or have links to studies underway?

Look the truth is, we all were excited when HQL or IVM were initially touted as perhaps being useful - but as soon as non conclusive results started filtering in - we still gave it more time, hopeful that there was still something useful in this - but it's been two years and 10000s of hours and resources poured into determining what benefits there are. None so far have proved to be of any real value. There are still studies in place - but until evidence of untarnished efficacy is presented, expect some criticism. Your specialists sound like Facebook or WhatsApp contacts that will try and sell you some... Does not sound very renowned.
 
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Not sure why any sane person would provide intimate details to people similar to you who behave in the ways they do on this forum. I stay away from these boring types who lack wisdom and knowledge, and who have very little to contribute. Let them enjoy their small black & white, face value worlds.
Names of doctors are intimate details? Looks like your doctors are not following Hippocratic oath. If they are real of course.
 

pouroverguy

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Not sure why any sane person would provide intimate details to people similar to you who behave in the ways they do on this forum. I stay away from these boring types who lack wisdom and knowledge, and who have very little to contribute. Let them enjoy their small black & white, face value worlds.

Are you one of those people that believes that Dr Chetty has a 100% success rate with IVM, HCQ and Azithromycin when treating seven thousand patients?
 

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Yeah, 100% success rates don't exist in medicine - the fact that someone can make such a claim and you'll blindly swallow it, shows how you will apply 100% credulity to the things you want to believe in, and 100% skepticism to the things you don't want to believe in. Proper sheep you are.

So I take it you have tested his claims? Or know someone who has?

If not, then everything you just accused me of, YOU are guilty of 10x over :rolleyes:
 
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