Ivermectin: balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19

buka001

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Not so. There have been no studies to try yet. All of them chicken out before they reach the IC50 concentration value which is ~ 2µM even a new report I have just read has used 300µg/kg which hardly reached an IC max value of just over ~ 1 µM. (in vivo).
Not according to the Guzzo and Pena-Silva studies.
 

Geoff.D

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The fact that you just put the WHOLE scientific community into one box, proves you are being disingenuous or have no clue.
I dont know what he is posting. But if he is again asking for proof of people saved by IVM, ask him if ONE case is good enough since he is prepared to accept ONE case of liver damage as proof?
 

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Nothing directly to do with this thread but given what goes on here it seems relevant in how it describes the magic potion religion

 

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What was the dosage?
Did they have one dose or several?
Did they use it early, mid or late?
Who knows, like you I am not a doctor. When they got the virus I really didn't think it was appropriate to as that considering they'd started a fight for their life.
Who knows. As above.
Early

Doesn't excuse you lot for claiming to know all when you don't. Poor!
 

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@Geoff.D Very interesting watch for those who understand Afrikaans. She has been dealing with human Ivermectin consumption for 5 years and in animals much longer.

One more thing to add to the mix is the antihistamine, Desloratadine.
The pill form of Ivermectin is much less effective than rubbing on the body (absorbed through the skin) and taking under the tongue.




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Cosmik Debris

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Nothing directly to do with this thread but given what goes on here it seems relevant in how it describes the magic potion religion


Ah yes. YouTube. Replaces years of university slog and learning with a few video sessions.

You send me an video over an hour long? Even porn longer than 10 minutes is too long.
 

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I accidentally OD'd on paracetamol once. My eyes turned yellow and knees swelled up during the night... had to to go hospital and they gave me a black charcoal drink and a drip for a few hours. made me shyte a multicoloured rainbow of gooey mess and I threw up most of the whiskey I drunk. Nurse said "Don't be a dom oke, you don't abuse drugs and drink at the same time". Clever lady.

How does one "accidentally" overdose on paracetamol?
 

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Because they might KILL the patient. But you think they should go ahead. Why do you think drugs get schedules?
Someone as smart as you still can't figure out how to combine quotes/answers into one post. Still, you're not qualified to make any comments on IVM.
 
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Cosmik Debris

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Someone as smart as you still can't figure out how to combine quotes/answers into one post. Still, you're not qualified to make any comments on IVM.

Can you remain on topic please? This isn't a thread where we show off our forum usage abilities. Open an off topic thread for that if it's what bugs you.

I have always stated I'm not qualified to comment on IVM. Are you?
 

rambo919

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Yes, and you can expect the rage of the zealots only to increase more and more as time goes on and new crisis's unfold.
Of course as pointed out.... they have no interest in actually interrogating their own beliefs.... their only interest is interrogating (very aggressively) the beliefs of others.

With the west now being post-Christian and increasingly neo-Pagan..... it will eventually become just as bloody as it was when it was fully Pagan. The irony is the new atheists think they are liberating the world from "superstition" but just like the fools of the French and Marxist Revolutions they are actually introducing new superstitions and it will end in massacres and mass incarcerations.... that target them as well.

It's not even as if this has never happened before multiple times..... it takes a certain kind of wilfully stupid to refuse to learn from history so repeated.... the hubris of "that was not real liberation, I am special, I won't screw it up".
 

Cosmik Debris

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With the west now being post-Christian and increasingly neo-Pagan..... it will eventually become just as bloody as it was when it was fully Pagan.

Crap. The Pagans were peaceful. It was the Christians that forced them to convert on pain of death.
 

Cosmik Debris

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The irony is the new atheists think they are liberating the world from "superstition" but just like the fools of the French and Marxist Revolutions they are actually introducing new superstitions and it will end in massacres and mass incarcerations.... that target them as well.

Atheists have superstitions? Hahaha! Have a look at your religions rather...
 

Geoff.D

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Not according to the Guzzo and Pena-Silva studies.
The Guzzo trial was a toxicity trial. It was NOT administered as a treatment for Covid 19.
Never the less very interesting because it confirms that IVM is not toxic at 10 times the FDA approved dosages.

BUT thanks for that link! It is linked to other RCT trials that have used dosages as high as 600µg/kg which will make for interesting reading. Great find thank you.

The second one is a letter based on another research report that does not get its facts right.
It was also not a trial for treating Covid 19 but an attempt to see IF the IC50 value would be possible in humans.
 
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