Jacob Zuma openly defies Zondo commission, says he is ready to be jailed

wizardofid

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Edward sure did declare war on 2 bottles Johnnie Walker on Wednesday, judging by those interview clips. The only battle he won thus far.
You call that a win ?. Well depends, if it was blue,red or black.......
 

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Wonder if he will get visitation rights and how soon that happens after committal. @Convict

oh well must be really lonely that first night, heart bleeds custard....
 

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Wonder if he will get visitation rights and how soon that happens after committal. @Convict

oh well must be really lonely that first night, heart bleeds custard....
According to the script,

While there are no contact visits allowed due to COVID-19, an official from the facility outlined what will happen.

“An offender that is categorized as a maximum, he has to get four visits per month and it’s inclusive of calls. We know that due to COVID-19, there are no contact visits so it will be counted as all calls that he will be subjected to

Basically a chit chat per week on the phone it seems. Doubt that would satisfy his requirements.
 

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meh I give it two three months tops before he is out on parole or just suspended sentence.

Tomorrow six "Reputable" doctors will conclude he will not live longer than three weeks so they need to release him
 

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meh I give it two three months tops before he is out on parole or just suspended sentence.

Tomorrow six "Reputable" doctors will conclude he will not live longer than three weeks so they need to release him
He doesn't need medical parole he'll qualify for parole by then. You can be sure they'll release him as soon as it's legally possible. They did for Tony, for Lungisa
 

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Question ...

Who pays the MKMVA ?

I doubt it's the ANC so probably the fiscus pays.

Now that they've been disbanded, I presume nobody pays ?

( and Carl will have to get a real job )
The state pays pension to military veterans, not just MKMVA but all military veterans as defined according to the military veterans act.

The leadership are a structure of the ANC so they will earn a salary from there, Carl was already employed by the ANC in the SG office so he wasn't getting double the salary.
 

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Protests Rioting all over Durban this morning, presume its over this thug.
I just don't get the utter mindlessness and no limit to the stupidity of these people supporting this criminal

To them he isn't a criminal, it may seem that they are out of touch with reality but they live in a different world to us where every day is a struggle and there is a battle going on behind the scenes to make their lives better. It's no different to the people that think there is a genocide happening in South Africa, every group only see's their own problems.
 

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Protests Rioting all over Durban this morning, presume its over this thug.
I just don't get the utter mindlessness and no limit to the stupidity of these people supporting this criminal

not just today but generally every day for the past few years.Dont understand why it never makes the headlines.Ridiculous that they block main freeways etc and nothing ever gets done.
 

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To them he isn't a criminal, it may seem that they are out of touch with reality but they live in a different world to us where every day is a struggle and there is a battle going on behind the scenes to make their lives better. It's no different to the people that think there is a genocide happening in South Africa, every group only see's their own problems.
So these idiots just continue to support a criminal and criminal organization that steals and loots from them, with promises that never came true, massive economic destruction, loss of jobs, etc... So let's continue to support these thugs and things continue to get worse. There is no brain or thinking anywhere to be seen there.
 

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not just today but generally every day for the past few years.Dont understand why it never makes the headlines.Ridiculous that they block main freeways etc and nothing ever gets done.
They should all be arrested, breaking lockdown rules, economic terrorism, destruction of property, etc
 

Herr der Verboten

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So these idiots just continue to support a criminal and criminal organization that steals and loots from them, with promises that never came true, massive economic destruction, loss of jobs, etc... So let's continue to support these thugs and things continue to get worse. There is no brain or thinking anywhere to be seen there.
just like the middle east. 'mind' boggles...
 

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Wonder if he will get visitation rights and how soon that happens after committal. @Convict

oh well must be really lonely that first night, heart bleeds custard....
You can get visit the first weekend you are inside. Do not how they will do it with Covid though.

When you go in they classify you, you normally start as a B group prisoner. Meaning visit through a window, almost like you see in the movies. Normally 6 months later, you get reviewed and if you broke no rules you become A group. Contact visits, 5 visits per month, and other benefits.

Now since he is doing such a small sentence they might start as an A group. I know other prison do not have contact visits though due to Covid, so it is windowed visits for all
 

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So these idiots just continue to support a criminal and criminal organization that steals and loots from them, with promises that never came true, massive economic destruction, loss of jobs, etc... So let's continue to support these thugs and things continue to get worse. There is no brain or thinking anywhere to be seen there.
Yeah, but we're not allowed to say they & their own stupidity are the cause of their own struggles lest we come across as insensitive towards the poor or racist or some other horrible thing for speaking the truth.

And if we're really living in such diverse worlds as Gyre says, then it makes the whole separate development thing sound a bit more like it was the best workable solution under the circumstances, not?

Unfortunately, just like the ANC, what started out quite a good idea became a monster, but it makes you think doesn't it?
 
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