Jacob Zuma openly defies Zondo commission, says he is ready to be jailed

[Kung Fu Porkchop]

No, they don't, she is a regular member of the NEC, in what world would she have more say than the ANC President?

Then I guess you missed a big part of the restrictions on alcohol, cigarettes' etc at the start of the lockdown

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

You can get removed from leadership but your blood remains green, black and yellow.

ah, the colours of corruption; all the stolen cash is green, the corrupt coal and gold mining contracts are black and yellow

 

[Fulcrum29]

Here is the Zuma Foundation statement,

to snip the Commissions Act,

 

[wingnut771]

No, they don't, she is a regular member of the NEC, in what world would she have more say than the ANC President?

In a state of disaster world.

 

[Excalibur]

ah, the colours of corruption; all the stolen cash is green, the corrupt coal and gold mining contracts are black and yellow

There was a lot of public funds theft and mineral looting in SA before the ANC even took charge of the country.

 

[wingnut771]

There was a lot of public funds theft and mineral looting in SA before the ANC even took charge of the country.

and yet we had the cheapest electricity in the world. It was more like skimming than the looting that's happening now. Skimming is sustainable.

 

[ToxicBunny]

That goes but Cyril is THE new leader of the ANC and the one who matters most.

Except that doesn't seem to play out in reality, they try govern by consensus in this large NEC structure.

Nobody seems to have the final "say" in these things, so we have to suffer through factional bollocks and ebbs and flows of who supports what and when.

 

[TelkomUseless]

There was a lot of public funds theft and mineral looting in SA before the ANC even took charge of the country.

And so 36 years later it's still ok to loot?
edit: and there is more people to look after now, yet cadres steal more then ever.

 

[surface]

and yet we had the cheapest electricity in the world. It was more like skimming than the looting that's happening now. Skimming is sustainable.

Because in those days, there were millions of Edison's sitting in their houses, generating electricity and feeding back to grid. I miss those days.

 

[Fulcrum29]

See the thing is and this is the thing. Listen to my council you may actually learn something.

Nobody gives a ****

Zuma and co. is casting doubt, and they will continue to cast doubt until it sticks to the 'public interest'.

 

[Bewlen]

There was a lot of public funds theft and mineral looting in SA before the ANC even took charge of the country.

In "those" days, they stole some eggs. The current lot stole the eggs, most of the chickens, broke down the coups and chased the owners off the farm.

 

[Excalibur]

I don't know under which rock you've been living, but people like Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma has more "say" than he does in the ANC.

Ok

 

[Excalibur]

Give him the 55 pound fine and be done with it. We don't want a crisis and bloodshed.

 

[Excalibur]

In "those" days, they stole some eggs. The current lot stole the eggs, most of the chickens, broke down the coups and chased the owners off the farm.

Rubbish, the ANC has embezzled nowhere near what was looted before them!

 

[Excalibur]

And so 36 years later it's still ok to loot?
edit: and there is more people to look after now, yet cadres steal more then ever.

Who said it's okay? Desist from strawmen and ad hominens if you still want engagement.

 

[Excalibur]

Except that doesn't seem to play out in reality, they try govern by consensus in this large NEC structure.

Nobody seems to have the final "say" in these things, so we have to suffer through factional bollocks and ebbs and flows of who supports what and when.

Yes there's consultation like in any sane government but the buck stops with Cyril, I promise you.

 

[Excalibur]

and yet we had the cheapest electricity in the world. It was more like skimming than the looting that's happening now. Skimming is sustainable.

Cheapest electricity mainly for the white minority. It was not a national utility.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Give him the 55 pound fine and be done with it. We don't want a crisis and bloodshed.

Why would there be a crisis and bloodshed?

BTW, it is 50 Pound, and since we are on this, did you read the commission's practice directions as gazetted?

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

All this debacle has shown is how easy it is to manipulate and play the legal system against itself if you have the legal-willpower to do so.

 

[TelkomUseless]

Who said it's okay? Desist from strawmen and ad hominens if you still want engagement.

I was asking you the question... if its ok to loot. You love to not answer questions and jump on the thesaurus and post he he.