Jacob Zuma openly defies Zondo commission, says he is ready to be jailed

[surface]

Maybe an arrangement where he serves his sentence at home?

Mockery of justice if this is so.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Another "this time the voters will change"? Been there done that for over 10 years. Maybe they are failing at damage control because they actually don`t care? Maybe its just a show to act like this is an issue for them?

Umm you are aware that the ANC's voting results have been decreasing with pretty much every election aren't you?

 

[Fulcrum29]

Maybe an arrangement where he serves his sentence at home?

That would be silly, Zuma have been able to leave the country at a time the borders was under lockdown. Who is going to keep him under arrest in Nkandla, he most certainty don't spend all his time there and there is also still the chance that may still be in Zambia. The media which cover Nkandla didn't even notice that he was in Zambia until the Eswatini press reported it as such which could still come down to it being only speculation. Just because his visitors are paraded on Twitter doesn't mean that they are actually there at the time is posted as such.

Giving him the courtesy to serve his sentence at home will be the luxury he desired and no ordinary person would be the wiser.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Mockery of justice if this is so.

Nkandla makes La Catedral look like a daycare centre.

vs

not to mention that La Catedral was actually constructed to protect Escobar where he could walk out as pleased. In Nkandla's case, it is vaster than the picture makes it out to be, but Zuma will openly roam those lands under nobody's guard and perhaps even still visit Zambia, Cuba, China and Russia amongst other places he wished to be, probably have monthly trip to Saudi Arabia. House arrest… home is wherever the heart is at.

I can already see it, they will probably pay MK to guard Nkandla...

 

[Fulcrum29]

Zuma misses court deadline to respond to contempt application

Recalcitrant former president holds virtual meeting with ANC top six

mg.co.za

Jacob Zuma misses court deadline to respond to contempt application

Former president Jacob Zuma on Monday missed the deadline to file an answering affidavit to the Zondo commission’s application asking the Constitutional Court to sentence him to a punitive prison term for contempt.

The registrar’s office at the court confirmed that by late afternoon Zuma’s legal representatives did not submit any papers in reply to those filed by commission secretary Itumeleng Mosala last month.

This is in keeping with Zuma’s failure to oppose the initial, and eventually successful, application by the commission last year for an order compelling him to heed a summons to testify for five days in mid-February.

He flouted that order, prompting Mosala to ask the court to find him in contempt and send him to prison for two years.

Not filing an affidavit is also in keeping with Zuma’s legal team’s concession that his battle with the commission is no longer legal, but political.

...

Legally, there is every likelihood that Zuma will be found in contempt for defying the Constitutional Court order handed down on 28 January.

The first three requirements are already in place, in that there was a court order, it was served on Zuma and he failed to comply with it.

The fourth is that the alleged contemnor acted wilfully or in bad faith in defying the court and, once the rest are in place, there is an assumption that this is the case.

Therefore, the onus is now on Zuma to cast reasonable doubt on the assumption that he acted with the intent of undermining the court in defying the order it handed down.

By not filing an affidavit, he is on his way to failing to discharge that onus.

Sources close to the former president said he is counting on the fact that, as a former Umkhonto weSizwe commander, few in the police force would be willing to arrest him, should the court so order.

I will give it 5 days...

 

[The_Mowgs]

Are you Zuma or a Gupta?

There's a difference between the 3?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Zuma misses court deadline to respond to contempt application

Recalcitrant former president holds virtual meeting with ANC top six

mg.co.za

I will give it 5 days...

He is making it pretty much impossible for the courts and the police and even the anc to do anything other than to deal with him within the structures of the law at this point.

 

[Fulcrum29]

He is making it pretty much impossible for the courts and the police and even the anc to do anything other than to deal with him within the structures of the law at this point.

Zondo made it a constitutional matter which was the right and proper course given the conditions. Yes, you are right, it is the only way to deal with him. As it is now, there should be no intervention other than allowing the law to be exercised within its own right.

In my view, Zuma is asking to be arrested so arrest him and get done with it. He is no messiah or martyr.

I am not a law expert, but I believe Zuma still have a small window to correspond with the ConCourt hence I said I will give it 5 more days. The country deserves a testimony, he can give it in containment.

 

[R13...]

Zuma misses court deadline to respond to contempt application

Recalcitrant former president holds virtual meeting with ANC top six

mg.co.za

I will give it 5 days...

He'll probably just go back to the commission before the case goes before the concourt. I think they should still jail him, he's taking the piss.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Jooste

Still rubbish.

 

[Fulcrum29]

He'll probably just go back to the commission before the case goes before the concourt. I think they should still jail him, he's taking the piss.

Exactly. However, he is playing the victim card. He has also learned to use social media, mostly managed by his daughter, to establish a presence within society. Whatever he is trying to achieve must rely on public sympathy, supported by celebrities, politicians and other ‘cadres’ who are pleading victim. All whilst scaling an attack against WMC and Ramaphosa.

It is a game, but what is the endgame?

When I look at this critically I don't like the puzzle pieces.

 

[neoprema]

I think the Zondo Commission is about to find out what happens when your ruling government and the person you're prosecuting are all in the same criminal basket of shared moneys and secrets....

All I see is top ANC and other people visiting Zuma for tea all the time. Watch it get swept under the rug soon...

 

[Fulcrum29]

RECORDED | Ace Magashule briefs the media after ANC top six meeting with Zuma

The ANC secretary general Ace Magashule is expected to brief the media on Thursday evening following a meeting between the party's top six officials and former president Jacob Zuma.

www.timeslive.co.za

The ANC secretary-general Ace Magashule is expected to brief the media on Thursday evening after a meeting between the party's top six officials and former president Jacob Zuma.

The Sunday Times Daily reported that the meeting was expected to discuss various issues including Zuma’s defiance of a Constitutional Court ruling ordering him to appear before the Zondo commission inquiry into state capture.

The party's top leadership was expected to try to persuade the former president to go back to the commission.

Thursday?

I read somewhere else that the top six was in a 2-hour meeting with Zuma.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Ace is speaking now, close to a hour late...

 

[Fulcrum29]

Nothing special… nothing other than having a very positive and constructive meeting with Zuma.

Basically, Zuma raised his concerns regarding the Constitution, there is nothing more to it. The same as Ramaphosa said, allow Zuma with time so that he may consult with his lawyers.

The ANC don’t want to discuss the particulars with the public. They even said that they didn’t invite the media to have dialogue other than updating them on the meeting.

Apparently, the reason why the meeting didn't take place at Luthuli House was due to logistical reasons. Is Zuma even in the country?

As concluded, everyone in the meeting was in one mind, that the law is to be respected well... Zuma didn't respond to the ConCourt today.

 

[wingnut771]

Ace is speaking now, close to a hour late...

No thanks, I just had dinner.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I've only listened to about 5 minutes of Ace talking, and all I'm hearing is waffle waffle waffle and bullshyte of the highest order.

 

[TheChamp]

"One of the best ever held meeting"

 

[ponder]

Thursday?

I read somewhere else that the top six was in a 2-hour meeting with Zuma.

Meeting was done, give the spin doctors some time to write up the speech.

 

[ToxicBunny]

"One of the best ever held meeting"

Yeah, Ace trying his best to be a spin doctor and just failing miserably.