Jamal Khashoggi - Turkey says journalist was murdered in Saudi consulate

marine1

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Iran were under sanctions and that money was in frozen Iranian bank accounts.

If I freeze your bank account it doesn't make the money mine
Why did he remove sanctions? Please man spin me another one :rolleyes:
And yes it does make it yours if you are the governement and that party was involved in crime , which the Iranians were and still are
But hey dont let facts cloud your judgement
 

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And yes it does make it yours if you are the governement and that party was involved in crime , which the Iranians were and still are
You say US is entitled to Iranian assets in foreign banks. Whats the crime you talk about?
 
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Kinda sad when there are so few. the tunisian president has to be a muslim by law, which is actually not that democratic?
That's besides the point. Marine1 wanted an Arab democratic country:)

With regards to religion of their presidents, what does it have to do with the system of government?
 

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With regards to religion of their presidents, what does it have to do with the system of government?
Really, you don't see the issue?

If I told you you can vote for any person as president in SA as long as the person is christian or zulu seeing as that is our majority religion or ethnicity it's fine with you and fits your view of democracy.

Following your logic those commie countries calling themselves 'democratic' where you could only vote for members of the communist party is also democratic. Just change political ideology for religious ideology and it's all good?
 

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Really, you don't see the issue?

If I told you you can vote for any person as president in SA as long as the person is christian or zulu seeing as that is our majority religion or ethnicity it's fine with you and fits your view of democracy.

Following your logic those commie countries calling themselves 'democratic' where you could only vote for members of the communist party is also democratic. Just change political ideology for religious ideology and it's all good?
How you and I feel doesn't change the facts.

American constitution stipulates minimum age before one can be considered a candidate. Italian law has similar conditions, etc. Are they not democratic?
 

ponder

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How you and I feel doesn't change the facts.

American constitution stipulates minimum age before one can be considered a candidate. Italian law has similar conditions, etc. Are they not democratic?
Truth be told there are very few real democracies in the world, some are closer and others are much further away. Switzerland comes closest.
 

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How you and I feel doesn't change the facts.

American constitution stipulates minimum age before one can be considered a candidate. Italian law has similar conditions, etc. Are they not democratic?
You also have to be a natural born US citizen to be president...
 

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Saudis are confirming that he was indeed executed in the embassy, and they have made 18 arrests so far. I wonder if the government going to compensate their families for being scapegoats, for sure a couple of them going to be Executed.
 

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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/21/...international-pressure-builds-intl/index.html
Saudi Arabia Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told Fox News that the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi was a "tremendous mistake" and part of a rogue operation.
"The individuals who did this did this outside the scope of their authority," he told Bret Baier on Sunday. "There obviously was a tremendous mistake made, and what compounded the mistake was the attempt to try to cover up. That is unacceptable in any government."

Al-Jubeir said that Saudi Arabia was taking action to investigate how Khashoggi died and hold those responsible accountable.
"We are determined to uncover every stone. We are determined to find out all the facts. And we are determined to punish those who are responsible for this murder," he said.
Very hard to believe it wasn't ordered by the prince seeing there was 15 of them who went on flights specifically for the purpose and had dismembering tools
 

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Jamal Khashoggi: murder in the consulate

As the mutilation starts, Tubaigy – the forensic scientist, who specialises in conducting autopsies – puts on headphones and is heard to say to his colleagues: “When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do that too.”

Khashoggi’s fingers were cut off while he was held down, the recording suggests. He was injected with a substance, which silenced him, then carried into another room – the third to be used in the gruesome killing – where he was lifted on to a meeting table then cut to pieces.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/21/death-of-dissident-jamal-khashoggi-mohammed-bin-salman
 
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