Jeffrey Epstein: US financier 'charged with sex trafficking'

Ancalagon

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That's true.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-answer-teens-rape-accusat#.gtDdpq85m

Look personally I believe Epstein simply killed himself under conditions of negligence. But if you're gonna drag us all down conspiracy alley here, let's remember that there's a lot more to connect his death with Trump than Clinton.

- Trump partied with Epstein and spoke on record about his knowledge of Epstein's taste for young girls
- Trump was accused of assault with Epstein
- Trump is....the PRESIDENT, and Bill Clinton isn't
- Trump handpicked the Attorney General William Barr whose DOJ was responsible for the negligence that led to Epstein's death. All the suspicious circumstances around his death can be traced back to things that the DOJ should have been responsible for.
- William Barr, who let's remember is a total lackey for Trump, has his own set of weird connections to Epstein
Let's look at those:
- He did not recuse himself from the case even though he formerly represented Epstein and stated he would recuse himself.
- His father hired Epstein in the 70s to work at a private school
All true, but one interesting fact is that Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for flirting with an underage girl.
 

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All true, but one interesting fact is that Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for flirting with an underage girl.
/shrug. So? I'm not accusing Trump of anything. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of your desperation to pin this on the Clintons without a shred of evidence.
 

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All true, but one interesting fact is that Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for flirting with an underage girl.
Although on further reading, is that true? Do you have some proof that this happened?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-falling-out

In 2002, for instance, the real estate developer told New York, “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” Per the New York Times, in 1992, Trump directed Florida businessman George Houraney to organize a “calendar girl” competition at Mar-a-Lago, and after 28 female contestants were procured, revealed that the other guests were just “him and Epstein.” Video footage from that same year shows the two men partying together at the Palm Beach resort with cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins, laughing, chatting, and, in the case of Trump, pawing at women. The friendly relationship continued for more than 10 years after that, with the two men reportedly dining at Epstein’s mansion and attending many of the same dinner parties; according to Epstein’s brother, Mark, Trump would comp Epstein’s mother and aunt at one of his Atlantic City casino hotels and flew on Epstein’s private jet—the one he allegedly used to ferryunderage girls to his private island of horrors—“numerous times.” One person who observed both men told the Washington Post that “they were tight” and that, nauseatingly, “they were each other’s wingmen.”

Ultimately, Epstein and Trump did have a falling-out. According to a new report from the Post, however, it didn’t have anything to do with Epstein’s disturbing behavior with underage women, but, naturally, a real estate deal.

According to the Post, the last known interaction between Trump and Epstein occurred the same month as the sale of the house, when Trump left a pair of messages for Epstein at his Palm Beach home. We can only assume Trump called to gloat over “low-energy” Epstein for losing the deal, and not to warn him to stay away from underage girls.
 

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/shrug. So? I'm not accusing Trump of anything. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of your desperation to pin this on the Clintons without a shred of evidence.
People who have crossed Trump don't have a history of killing themselves by shooting themselves in the back of the head, as far as I know.
 

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/shrug. So? I'm not accusing Trump of anything. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of your desperation to pin this on the Clintons without a shred of evidence.
Fair enough, they can't be everywhere at once. Also the client list is large and no one knows everyone that's on it.... could be anyone that suicided the pimp.
 

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Fair enough, they can't be everywhere at once. Also the client list is large and no one knows everyone that's on it.... could be anyone that suicided the pimp.
This, I think there are far more dangerous (and discreet) people involved in this than either the Clintons or Trump.
 

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What is quite amazing is that the left is quiet on this matter........CNN just has Hong Kong news....Fox on the other hand is all over this like a rash.

Boggles the mind in that the left news outlets usually jump all over anything where they think the right has over played their hand.........strange times indeed.
 

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Fair enough, they can't be everywhere at once. Also the client list is large and no one knows everyone that's on it.... could be anyone that suicided the pimp.
Most likely he just suicided himself. He had plenty of reason to do it and there was every indication that he was severely depressed.

People who have crossed Trump don't have a history of killing themselves by shooting themselves in the back of the head, as far as I know.
Ugh. This stuff has been debunked so many times already.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-body-bags/

What is quite amazing is that the left is quiet on this matter........CNN just has Hong Kong news....Fox on the other hand is all over this like a rash.

Boggles the mind in that the left news outlets usually jump all over anything where they think the right has over played their hand.........strange times indeed.
Fox is jumping on the fever swamp of conspiracies, while respectable news outlets are you know...reporting the real news. Such as the one upside that a lot of the NDAs Epstein had forced people to sign are going to be invalidated.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/the-legal-aftermath-of-jeffrey-epsteins-death.html

Are NDAs Invalidated After His Death?
Epstein frequently made his employees and contractors — from the construction workers who built his island mansion to his caretaker in Palm Beach — sign nondisclosure agreements forbidding them to discuss any activity they saw on his property. But in an interview, Miami Heraldreporter Julie K. Brown stated that these employees are no longer held to secrecy upon his death. In June, she also noted that NDAs signed by victims who had previously settled with Epstein prohibited them from discussing the financial details of their award, not the details of the alleged abuse. Attorney David Boies told the Washington Post in June that he was representing two alleged victims who had signed NDAs.
 

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I’ve been researching ways to send my race cards overseas to protect against hyperinflation.
well china is now out of the question

This time it's more tham just smoke. We have an actual fire.
pizzas are burning! lol

But if you're gonna drag us all down conspiracy alley here,
no the point was it , i said, twice now there is pedo smoke against the same name. which you agreed to. well as rietrot pointed out theres a blazing fire now.

The fact that Monica Lewinsky, Anthony Weiner and James Comey are all alive and well, kind of blows the whole "Clinton Body Count" theory apart.
yet there is an actual list. they are supposed to be the good guys.
 

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no the point was it , i said, twice now there is pedo smoke against the same name. which you agreed to. well as rietrot pointed out theres a blazing fire now.
No, there's one conspiracy theory being reinforced by a second conspiracy theory. Pizzagate was thoroughly discredited lunacy that led to one guy driving into a pizza house with a truck full of guns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

"Pizzagate" is a debunked conspiracy theory that went viral during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle.[2][3][4] It has been extensively discredited by a wide range of organizations, including the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia.[3][4][5]

In March 2016, the personal email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, was hacked in a spear-phishing attack. WikiLeaks published his emails in November 2016. Proponents of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory falsely claimed the emails contained coded messages that connected several U.S. restaurants and high-ranking officials of the Democratic Partywith an alleged human trafficking and child sex ring. One of the establishments allegedly involved was the Comet Ping Pong restaurant and pizzeria in Washington, D.C.[6][7]

Members of the alt-right, and other opponents of Clinton's presidential campaign, spread the conspiracy theory on social media outlets such as 4chan, 8chan, and Twitter.[8] In response, a man from North Carolina traveled to Comet Ping Pong to investigate the conspiracy and fired a rifle inside the restaurant.[9] The restaurant owner and staff also received death threats from conspiracy theorists.[10]

yet there is an actual list. they are supposed to be the good guys.
What actual list?
 

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No, there's one conspiracy theory being reinforced by a second conspiracy theory. Pizzagate was thoroughly discredited lunacy that led to one guy driving into a pizza house with a truck full of guns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

What actual list?
so you dont find it suspicious that two pedo stories totally unrelated in origin tie to the same people. alrighty then. i dont care about the pizza thing, that could also be an attempt to cover things up, who knows, there are many high profile accounts/testimonies of conspiracies used as a way to discredit accusations.

im more interested in the unrelated origins of a similar claim. that to me is smoke. plus theres an actual pedo island owned by a guy that provided trips on his private jet! o_O

make it a "bad guy", putin takes a ride 27 times with a guy that has a pedo island? would it be more believable then?

someone posted a list earlier in the thread.


its sad that incomprehensible atrocities get attributed to conspiracy because the possible of the reality of it is just too much. meanwhile the history of human nature has never ceased to surprise.
 

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It's a shame that theories about wrongdoings of powerful people who are perfectly capable of doing such things gets lumped together with hollow earth, flat earth, Lizard people and fake moon landing under the term "Conspiracy theory"

It's well known that psychopaths often have the ideal personality to become politicians and very successful business people, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the JFK stuff and some of the allegations on here turns out to be true.
Zuma's guptagate could very easily have been classified as "conspiracy theory" if they weren't so careless.
 

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It's a shame that theories about wrongdoings of powerful people who are perfectly capable of doing such things gets lumped together with hollow earth, flat earth, Lizard people and fake moon landing under the term "Conspiracy theory"

It's well known that psychopaths often have the ideal personality to become politicians and very successful business people, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the JFK stuff and some of the allegations on here turns out to be true.
Zuma's guptagate could very easily have been classified as "conspiracy theory" if they weren't so careless.
If you have any proof I'll gladly look at it. Until then it's in the same category as every other wacko theory.
 

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If you have any proof I'll gladly look at it. Until then it's in the same category as every other wacko theory.
Seeing as the last guy with proof got suicided..... not really something that's gonna happen easy.
 

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Ja,no. Trying to turn this around on Trump or even Russia is probably the stupidest thing if seen so far.

Just like the left can't meme, they suck even more at coming up with there own conspiracy theories. It is an amazing amount of unoriginality.
Trolltrot, this is just low level even for you.
 
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