Jeffrey Epstein: US financier 'charged with sex trafficking'

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As far as the reason and the cause, you're right, my mind is pretty made up. As far as the who, no, that is not settled, but the fact that you think it is does a lot to explain the inane quality of your posts.
Hmm, interesting. So you're saying that it could even had been Trump who authorised the hit? That makes a lot of sense, he has connections and the power to do it
 

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Hmm, interesting. So you're saying that it could even had been Trump who authorised the hit? That makes a lot of sense, he has connections and the power to do it
Except for the evidence that shows an utter willingness by Trump to get Epstein into whatever trouble he could, you might have a point.


 

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Except for the evidence that shows an utter willingness by Trump to get Epstein into whatever trouble he could, you might have a point.


But that just adds even more suspicion, if he genuinely believed the guy was bad news, he could have dealt with him personally? Didn't Trump appoint the guy in charge of the prison or something?

Weird that someone that would have been so valuable to Trump just ended up murdered? You'd think he would have done more to protect him? This is starting to sound like a real possibility
 

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But that just adds even more suspicion, if he genuinely believed the guy was bad news, he could have dealt with him personally? Didn't Trump appoint the guy in charge of the prison or something?
So Trump had the dude wacked becuase he hated Epstein so much that he couldn't actually wait for him to get his day in court? :ROFL:

Weird that someone that would have been so valuable to Trump just ended up murdered? You'd think he would have done more to protect him? This is starting to sound like a real possibility
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So Trump had the dude wacked becuase he hated Epstein so much that he couldn't actually wait for him to get his day in court? :ROFL:


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It is a possibility, what if he thought he would get a lenient sentence again as he did in the past?
 

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It is a possibility, what if he thought he would get a lenient sentence again as he did in the past?
So Trump doesn't have the power to make sure that doesn't happen, yet Trump is the one responsible for the circumstances surrounding Epstein's death because he's the one with all the power? :ROFL:
 

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So Trump doesn't have the power to make sure that doesn't happen, yet Trump is the one responsible for the circumstances surrounding Epstein's death because he's the one with all the power? :ROFL:
Trump has just as much to gain from Epstein's death before he had the opportunity to talk and reveal he knew nothing just as the people who would off him to prevent him from talking. Trump has won with his voter base either way now, whether he did it or someone else did. People will hate the Clintons even more now - sounds like something Trump would want
 

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Except that Epstein talking would be much more damaging to the Dems. And rumour has it that's exactly what Epstein was planning on doing.
But what if his talking didn't result in anything? His first arrest didn't make anyone nervous? It seemed very strategic, to make a guy that seemed like he knew something when he didn't' actually know anything
 

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Is it? The medical examiner ruled it a suicide so unless you want to claim that you know more than they do (you don't) or they were in on the whole thing, the case is closed.
Yeah not so sure about that...

Apparently Robin Williams killed himself by hanging from a door knob - it's suicide by asphyxiation.
Full suspension is not required; most hanging suicides are done by partial suspension, according to Wyatt et al.[21] Geo Stone, author of Suicide and Attempted Suicide: Methods and Consequences, suggests that death by obstruction of the airway is more painful than by the other ways


You can hang yourself without being completely suspended, it's well documented.
yes ok my apologies i was wrong in the broader sense.

people do stop blood to the brain while having a fap and kill themselves by mistake, or drink/drug themselves into a stupor beforehand so that their body/brain cannot respond.

it is not often/general that a fully functional body will not preserve it self unless otherwise motivated like in the examples above, im sure there are other scenarios where it can also happen.

people can also tie a strong enough cord around their neck and the top of a bunk bed for example and attempt to drop to ground so their ass supposedly would hit the ground first, this is also not always as easy to do as described.
 

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One of Jeffrey Epstein’s public accusers claims she had to give a foot massage to The Simpsons creator Matt Groening while on the rich criminal’s private jet, though she was repulsed by the cartoonist’s “crusty toes,” according to newly-released court documents.
Doesn't she mean 'Krusty toes'?
 

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but now.

surely if trump engaged with this guys entertainment, he would have a hold over trump? not enabling trump to go against him because of blackmail etc.

unless trump is so intimidating that epstein wouldnt dare, but that doesnt sound right.
 
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