Jesus Christ proof: Richard Dawkins in shock ‘archaeological evidence’ claim over Messiah

[Splinter]

It's called google, don't believe me, investigate opposite opinions yourself.

No my friend - you made the claims; I'm not doing your research for you.

 

[rambo919]

No my friend - you made the claims; I'm not doing your research for you.

And I'm not a dog here to perform tricks for you, bye.

 

[Lupus]

No my friend - you made the claims; I'm not doing your research for you.

There is no land bridge, but during the major Ice Age there was enough of an Ice sheet that humans could travel from Europe through Greenland to Canada, spreading that way down though. But this was 40/50 000 years ago.

 

[Ponderer]

No dude - you are the one making the claim of land bridges available to Shem.

The land bridges science knows of were millions of years before your god pitched up....

Uhmm - it is not unheard of to use boats and/or rafts to cross bodies of water.

 

[Splinter]

And I'm not a dog here to perform tricks for you, bye.

Ok, so you can't back it up then. Another hole in your religious theories hey.

 

[Splinter]

Uhmm - it is not unheard of to use boats and/or rafts to cross bodies of water.

Rambo was the one claiming land bridges. Besides, the bible was very clear about the arc being the property of Shem's dad. And that it was beached when the floods receded..

By the way - have you confirmed that you have read a Dawkins book yet?

 

[Scary_Turtle]

Why is it that certain/some Atheists are so militant/aggressive?
It does not make any sense to vehemently hate something that does not exist.
Unless of course they somehow "know" that GOD exists, and are desperately trying to "reason" it away so as to justify doing what they want to do.

These militant type Atheists are extremely intolerant towards the religious views/opinions/beliefs of others, and try to quash every/all religious views/opinions/beliefs other than their own.
They have a problem with others having some or other religious view/opinion, but they have no problem imposing their religious opinion/view on others.

And yes, Atheism is purely a religious view/opinion/belief - their argument that it must first be proven to their satisfaction/criteria that GOD exists is k*k.
How about proving that GOD does not exist, huh?

Oh my

-You are so militant that you call people idiots, dumbass, poephols etc so do you know GOD doesn't exist and you are trying to "reason" your beliefs?

-Ponderer the militant type religious is extremely intolerant towards the non-religious/opinions/beliefs of others, and try to quash every/all non religious views/opinions/beliefs other than their own.

-Religion is purely an opinion with little to no facts and a lot of interpretation.

Then Ponderer drops a k*k bomb once again showing how ...... uuur great he is of a human being having GOD in his life.

Gosh you make this easy, you literally push everyone's buttons then when they respond you swear/name call them like a child its embarrassing.

Rambo has at least kept his composure through the thread and shown he is actually following what he preaches. This is the kind of person who I respect even if my views differ from his.

 

[Splinter]

There is no land bridge, but during the major Ice Age there was enough of an Ice sheet that humans could travel from Europe through Greenland to Canada, spreading that way down though. But this was 40/50 000 years ago.

Maybe the ark was a time machine as well?

 

[Ponderer]

Rambo was the one claiming land bridges. Besides, the bible was very clear about the arc being the property of Shem's dad. And that it was beached when the floods receded..

By the way - have you confirmed that you have read a Dawkins book yet?

Yes - I have read "The God Delusion" (and one other one).
A much better read is the "Devil's Delusion" by David Berlinski.

Dawkins is a mediocre scientist, while his attempts at Philosophy are pathetic.
Those that regard Dawkins as a philosopher are .... lets just say they are not so clever.

 

[Lupus]

Maybe the ark was a time machine as well?

It was the Delorean of it's era

 

[daveza]

the "Devil's Delusion" by David Berlinski.

Confusing title.

 

[noxibox]

It's more difficult to not see than see. Most of the actual attacks on the "Christian God" are attacks on JEWISH books.
I think the first time I really noticed this was when trying to watch the incoherent drivel that is Zeitgeist, the idiot kept attacking the "Christian Bible" with references to the Old Testament..... The flood, the cleansing of the corrupt cities.... ALL in the Old Testament but always the attacks are on the "Christian God".

Well they are part of the Christian Bible. I recall them regularly being used to preach from in Church and school. It is also regularly used to justify rules and attitudes by members of the Christian religion. So it's quite valid to make arguments against the religion using text from the Old Testament. I am of the opinion they don't belong in the Christian Bible and that the deities described in the Old and New Testaments are different. But one of the reasons they're included is to create the illusion of fulfilled prophecy.

There is of course plenty to criticise about the New Testament and people do. There is also reasonable evidence that the fundamentals of the religion sprang from the surrounding culture of the time.

This reflects a certain irrational bias towards Christianity specifically, all of progresivism is against Christianity instead of for somethings specific even to the point of allying with Islam which is a MUCH more violent religion than either Christianity or Judaism. The only rational conclusion is the actual current goal of progresivism is the end of Christianity at all costs.

I'd say that's more an imagined goal of progressive people. As a rule there isn't an attempt to wipe out Christianity, but rather to keep in check the virulent Christians who would, and in the past did, force their religion on everyone. In general no-one has a problem with moderate Christians, or Muslims or members of any religion, who quietly practice their religion. It becomes a problem when they want their religious symbols in schools or they want to force all their employees to pray, etc.

That is not to say that as soon as Christianity seems beaten they won't turn on the Jews as well.

They seem to regularly be accused of being anti-Semitic for criticising Israel. Anyway not criticising the beliefs of Judaism probably has a lot to do with it not being plastered everywhere in daily life.

Depends on what you mean by Christianity

I mean the religion itself. That's it is incorrect and drawing people off onto a path this god does not want.

 

[Ponderer]

Confusing title.

The full title of the book is "The Devils Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions".
It absolutely shreds Dawkins.
Most critical thinkers rate the book quite highly.

 

[Splinter]

Yes - I have read "The God Delusion" (and one other one).
A much better read is the "Devil's Delusion" by David Berlinski.

Dawkins is a mediocre scientist, while his attempts at Philosophy are pathetic.
Those that regard Dawkins as a philosopher are .... lets just say they are not so clever.

You read the entire book? Before this week? Promise?

 

[Splinter]

Most critical thinkers rate the book quite highly.

Really? What do you base this opinion on?

 

[Prawnapple]

Except atheism and critical thinking are two seperate things.... yes some children get taught atheism.
Why assume there are only two options? Many people admit they don't know so can't choose either yes or no.

So? Get an atheist symbol and place it everywhere you please. Plenty of pantagrams all over the place already can I complain about them?

I would if I could, unfortunately atheism as well as people who don't play golf and also people who don't collect stamps (non-stamp collecters) don't have symbols. Pentragrams have multiple meanings, none to do with atheism. It probably doesn't help to fight fire with fire all the time too.

Except atheism and critical thinking are two seperate things.... yes some children get taught atheism.

How does one teach atheism exactly?

 

[buka001]

Why would it be strange to have grandkids of three different races? Happens here in SA all the time.

Look again I never said the sons were of three different races I said they fathered three different macro races. Why assume that their wives were all of the same race?

Genetics.

It is a science, you know, that thing you despise.

 

[Ponderer]

Really? What do you base this opinion on?

On having read it myself, and on the reviews of it.

 

[Splinter]

Dawkins is a mediocre scientist, while his attempts at Philosophy are pathetic.
Those that regard Dawkins as a philosopher are .... lets just say they are not so clever.

Personally, even though I have not read any of his stuff, I imagine Dawkins to be brilliant at what he does. Mainly because he cleary infuriates you no end, to the point of you blindly hating him.

Ergo, he must know his s**t.

 

[Splinter]

On having read it myself, and on the reviews of it.

So some reviews (totally unbiased to, no doubt... ) equates to "most critical thinkers"? Seems a bit of a stretch..